Another 124 Grain+P Gold Dot shooting NYC

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Brooklyn123456, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. An NYPD sergeant shot and killed an armed man during a prostitution sting in Brooklyn-Queens Expressway Thursday night, police said.

    Tyjuan Hill, 22, and three other men were in a green Mazda sedan when cops, suspicious that they were trying to solicit an undercover police officer posing as a prostiute, pulled their car over at Henry and Huntington streets about 10 p.m., sources said.

    That's when Hill bolted from the car and the sergeant and at least one other cop — part of an operation dubbed Operation Losing Proposition — gave chase, the spokesman said.

    When they caught up to Hill at West 9th Street and Hamilton Avenue, a struggle ensued. At some point, police said Hill drew a .9mm Kel Tec semiautomatic handgun and pointed it at the officers, police said.

    The sergeant — an eight-year veteran who had never previously fired his gun — squeezed off a round, striking Hill in the head, the NYPD spokesman said.

    Hill was pronounced dead at the scene, cops said. A gun was recovered at the scene. Police did not identify the sergeant who fired his weapon.

    Carol Hill, Tyjuan's mother, rejected the NYPD's version of events, saying her son never carried a gun.

    "He knows better than to carry any type of weapon," Hill, 44, said Friday. "I'm telling you, the police are lying."

    Carol Hill said she last spoke to her son at 9:30 p.m. Thursday, when he told her he was on his way home. When he failed to show up, she called his cell phone all night.

    "I felt something in my stomach, because my son wasn't home," she said. "I got scared, I got nervous."

    An NYPD detective notified her about the shooting the next morning, but she was too distraught to hear most of the details.

    "I was too busy screaming," she said.

    Cops were still questioning the other men in the car — who are between the ages of 18 and 25 years old — Friday afternoon, police said. They have not been arrested.

    One of the officers was taken to a hospital with minor injuries, police said.

    An NYPD spokesman said Hill had prior arrests for robbery, assault and narcotics. He had spent a year and a half in prison for robbery, according to state Department of Correction records and Hill's mother.

    Carol Hill said her son had "normal teenage problems," but would never threaten a police officer.

    "He stayed away from trouble," she said.

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  3. rohanreginald

    rohanreginald Novice

    All I can say is wow. What a skewed sense of reality from the mother.

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  4. M 7

    M 7

    Excellent control on behalf of the Sergeant being able to place the shot accurately, at distance, after a foot chase, and under the stress of having a weapon pointed at him.

    Although I feel badly for the mother losing her son, she's typical of most parents (massive denial, lacking accountability) who raise a child that engages in that sort of behavior.
  5. janice6

    Platinum Member


    There seems to be a common theme in these cases involving BG with a gun. If he was so good, why was he in prison for robbery?

    (I bet the Sargent did fire his gun frequently and called it practice)
  6. At some point, police said Hill drew a .9mm Kel Tec semiautomatic handgun and pointed it at the officers, police said.

    Not the first time I have heard of a .9mm referenced in a "news" article. I really want to get one but am having trouble finding any!
    #5 cowboy1964, Sep 21, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2012
  7. hotpig

    hotpig IAFF Local 4766

    They are restricted sale to gang bangers only.
  8. janice6

    Platinum Member


    Neophyte conflicted between English and Metric.

    If a .45 Cal. is big, a 9 mm (2 X .45 is not 9 but .9) must be a Mortar or mistake. Corrected to .9mm

  9. The dead suspect was "a good boy" who only served time for robbery?

    Sounds to me like the mother has been coached to say patently silly things like this in anticipation of a big payday when the "community" demands retribution for the death of another "good boy" with arrests for robbery, assault and narcotics.
    #8 unit1069, Sep 21, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2012
  10. Chalk another one up for the 124g +p Gold dot. They,re really laying out a path of destruction lately. :supergrin:
  11. Hmmm, maybe in her world those are normal teenage problems.:whistling:
  12. robhic

    robhic WOLVERINE!!!!
    Platinum Member Gold Member

    Obviously, not quite far enough away....
  13. Paul53

    Paul53 Geezer Boomer

    He was just getting his life together when a marauding gang in blue uniforms attacked him for no reason. It's just no right!
  14. cadillacguns

    Millennium Member

    Next story will be about poor victem who was going to turn his life around and was about to start a budding "Rap/Hip Hop" career.

    Good job NYPD.
  15. Thanks Janice, I learned something today. Googled "Caliber" and found:

    "For example, a small bore rifle with a diameter of 0.22 inch is a .22 cal; however, the decimal point is generally dropped when spoken, making it "twenty-two caliber" or a "two-two caliber". (Wikipedia, FWIW)

    ....but ".9 millimeter" would be about the diameter of a needle.
  16. I feel for the mother. No parent should outlive their child, but if he's gonna make these decisions he's gonna face the consequences and sadly he faced the final consequence.

    One of the good things about dash cam video is that sometimes you have concrete proof that so and so's alter boy angel is in fact Joe Gangbanger who tried to kill a cop. Dash cams have burned a lot of cops but saved a lot too.

    Just my $.02

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    #15 ThatGuyDave, Sep 23, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2012
  17. Wow! What a great shot for the first time he ever fired his gun. I supposed NYPD must be trying to save training costs...:supergrin:
  18. Funny, usually when you stay away from trouble you don't spend a year and a half in jail!

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  19. How do you get gang banger pricing on a handgun? I know for LE pricing on a Glock you have to show your department ID. I guess in the hood you wear the colors flash at least two signs and take your pick from the trunk of a car.
  20. Hugo R

    Hugo R Gaff G26 User!

    Right now the Speer GDHP in 124gr. +P is my favorite and my 9's are all stoked with it....of course there's the whole 'shot placement' thing...

  21. Kcolg

    Millennium Member

    How about poor policeman who was placed in that situation had had to make the choice he did in a split second only to have it mauled over and scrutenized by his superiors and attorneys in a civil case. No matter how justified a shooting is, it still screws things up if maybe only for a few months. My thoughts and prayers to the officers involved and their families.

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