Ammoman.com just shipped my 500-case of Speer 54234 357SIG ammo

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  1. jeffreybehr

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    http://www.ammoman.com/p/304/357-sig-125-grain-gold-dot-hollow-point-54234
    ...and they have lots more in stock.

    Ordered it Sunday; UPS has it today, and I'll have it probably Monday.

    Am waiting for SGAmmo.com to get Winchester Ranger Bonded back in stock; will try that too.

    I guess I'll be carrying factory ammo for PD if either of these is as 100% reliable as my reloads.
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  3. Nothing like that door bell ringing and the dog barking when it is the UPS man bringing ammo!!!! Enjoy!!:thumbsup:
     

  4. Poohgyrr

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    Great. I picked up some Gold Dots from SG before last Nov.. Good ammo.
     
  5. DeLo

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    Very nice, I just saw them last night and bookmarked that page. I haven't dealt with them before and was a little tentative to order.
     
  6. What brand crimp die you using? :cool:
     
  7. jeffreybehr

    jeffreybehr GAPist #1944

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    Original (stock) Lee 3-piece die set. I set the seating/crimp die to have a distinct pressure at the shell's height without belling the case--but then I run ALL my COMPLETED reloads thru an empty .40-cal sizing die anyway.

    As you can see, I outside-chamfer all case mouths; that seems to help them feed more easily. All my reloads, with XTP124s, Barnes TAC-XP125s, or Montana Gold 125HPs, feed and function absolutely perfectly. Both former loads achieve about 1400FPS 10-foot velocities from a 5.2" barrel; my practice loads* achieve about 1300FPS.

    * in which I use all the powders I bought a pound of and then rejected for PD loads. Currently I'm consuming VV 3N37.
     
    #6 jeffreybehr, Feb 1, 2013
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  8. I might give that outside chamfer a try.:cool: I've used up all my universal for targets. I'm trying out accurate arms #5 now. I do have a lb. of vv3n38 but with no data for 357sig.
     
  9. jeffreybehr

    jeffreybehr GAPist #1944

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    The first 500-case arrived today, on schedule. I write 'first' because I ordered another 500 last WE...and after manually cycling 61 cartridges thru 4 magz of my 31G4 and having them function perfectly, I ordered another thousand this afternoon. :whistling:

    Ain't they perdy!!!!!!
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    #8 jeffreybehr, Feb 6, 2013
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  10. ammoman is a good supplier, free shipping
     
  11. good info to know...thanks

    Bill
     
  12. redbaron007

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    Ordered 500 rounds of 'Canned Heat' from Georgia-Arms for practice, last Monday, Jan 28th. According to UPS, they are arriving today. :supergrin:

    If you're interested, the web site will not let you order; however, if you call and speak to a customer service rep, you can place an order. When I ordered mine, they indicated it could take 4-8 weeks for the FMJ; the Speer HPs would take longer.

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  13. _The_Shadow

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    jeffreybehr, That should hold you till the end of the month! He, he, he... LOL

    Those Speer casings have smaller flash holes than any other make, I drill them out to be uniform with other makes!

    It seems not as many people are using this cartridge as they once did!
     
  14. jeffreybehr

    jeffreybehr GAPist #1944

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    Tested these Speer GoldDots #54234 this afternoon using my Glock 31Gen4.

    Velocities at 10' average screen distance, 10-shot samples:
    ...With 5.2" StormLake barrel--1384FPS, SD 6.0, ES 20.
    ...With stock 4.6" barrel--1356FPS, SD 3.0, ES 12.
    Recognizing that Speer quotes muzzle velocity (1375FPS), these numbers make sense. The Standard-Deviation and Extreme-Spread numbers are VERY good.

    Expansion tests in a series of four 1-gallon waterjugs with 4 or 8 layers of denin taped to the front of the first jug, shot from 10 feet:
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    Lightest bullet weighed 123.4g; the 3 averaged 124 grains, which makes the weight loss less than 1%. 'Diameters' were 0.58", 0.60", and 0.62 inches. The 4 versus 8 layers of denin made no apparent difference.

    Muzzleflash is virtually nonexistant.
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    I shot about 40 rounds; they functioned 100% reliably. I'm pleased.

    Also, my experimentation with these GoldDot 125s, the Hornady XTP124s, and the Barnes TAC-XP125s show that all 3 bullets perform excellently, and I'd be proud to carry any of them. Now, I'll be carrying the GoldDots. :supergrin:
     
    #13 jeffreybehr, Feb 7, 2013
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  15. Awesome report!! Thanks. I guess your water jugs don"t become ice jugs there? Freezing rain and snow here tomorrow......again....
     
  16. jeffreybehr

    jeffreybehr GAPist #1944

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    YVW.

    No ice in Phoenix; it rarely gets down to freezing. But when it's maybe 80dF. in Penn., it's maybe 110dF. here.

    One added point--over the years I've shot many GoldDots into waterjugs; they are highly consistent in their expansion and weight retention.
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    #15 jeffreybehr, Feb 7, 2013
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  17. I am amazed at your results through denim. I have never seen over 0.56" in expansion through clothes for factory rounds, and I believe the FBI testing in gel through clothing was in the mid .50". The Underwood round does expands to about 0.64", but has much more velocity.
     
  18. jeffreybehr

    jeffreybehr GAPist #1944

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    Have received all 3 shipments from Ammoman.com, and they have more left! Get 'em while they're here; I have a hunch they'll be a long time coming after these run out.

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    I think I'll be selling (here) the Barnes TAC-XP 125g. bullets on the right.
     
  19. Nice! Drooling here!! That's BETTER than money in the bank!!
     
  20. I just received a 50rd box of the 54234. The OAL for each round varies a lot. Half of them measured 1.134,the other 1.127. The 20rd box(23918) that I have all measure 1.126 and function fine in my gen4 g23 out of a stormlake barrel.I'm half tempted to seat the whole box of 54234 to 1.126 and recrimp.:steamed: I might just fire a few of the longer bullets first to see how they function. They do seem to have a little wider hollowpoint though.
     
  21. jeffreybehr

    jeffreybehr GAPist #1944

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    All I know is that my new #54234 ammo functions perfectly in my 31Gen4.

    BTW Ammotogo.com has Remington 357SIG Golden Saber Bonded 125s in stock by the 50box...$40...or the 500case...$396, both plus shipping. I ordered a 500case.
     
    #20 jeffreybehr, Mar 6, 2013
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