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American Tactical's new 1911s :)

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by bac1023, Jun 24, 2010.

  1. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    These just became available very recently. In fact, they aren't even on ATI's website yet, I don't believe. I haven't seen tham pop up on Gunbroker yet either. There are two models available, the Military and the Thunderbolt. The only ATI 1911 I see online is the German rimfire.

    They are built by Shooters Arms Manufacturing (SAM) in the Philippines and quality seems great, actually. My dealer got both models in, and for just over $400 OTD, I decided to pick up the Military model.

    SAM does some good stuff. The Thunderbolt model is $200 more, but is totally enhanced to include a beavertail, FLGR, nice front strap checkering, a skeletonized hammer and trigger, a rail (which was the dealer breaker for me), and I believe an ambi safety, all for $600. :wow: I was impressed and if it weren't for the rail, I probably would have bought it instead. You don't see checkering on $600 1911s that often, especially nice checkering.

    Still, the Military is cool. I like the wide hammer and solid construction. This is one HEAVY 1911, at 41.2oz. Its at least 2oz heavier than any other GI I own. :headscratch: Amazingly, its heavier than my Springfield TGO1, Ed Brown Classic Custom, Wilson Super Grade, Kimber Super Match II, and Liebenberg Signature. All of these 1911s have full length guide rods, magwells, and ever other feature you can think of. I can't understand why its so heavy, to be honest. Its obviously something to do with the steel. I only have a few 1911s heavier than it and only by very little.

    Here are some pics.

    The best part about it is that it comes in a cardboard box. :tongueout:


  2. deathpriest


    Dec 12, 2004
    Congrats, I like the wide hammer as well.
    Let us know how it shoots and how it compares with Rock Islands
  3. Monte#2


    Nov 12, 2009
    Looks nice, bac! Why did they have to go and ruin the upgraded model with a rail? :dunno: I sure would have like to seen one with those upgrades MINUS the rail! Seems like a great price-point.
  4. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    I have no idea.

    I can see why they included a rail, but they could have had two models. Maybe they will at some point. However, its just these two right now.

    I can't even find a pic online to link. :dunno: For those that want a rail, its an incredible value.

    Last edited: Jun 24, 2010
  5. Tactical black

    Tactical black

    Jan 24, 2008
    It looks nice for the money. Congrats!
  6. BuckyP

    BuckyP Lifetime Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    I'm guessing that the premium guns you speak of are all flat topped? The flat topping does remove quite a bit of weight, depending how aggressive it is. Checking and the undercutting of the trigger guards are also areaa where weight is removed, as is a higher cut beavertail.
  7. Ruggles


    Jun 13, 2005
    Saw one last weekend at the Houston gun show. Seemed to be better quality than the Chippa 1911-22 which while it works is very "toy gun" feeling. This seems to be a better deal IMO.

  8. okie

    okie GT Mayor

    Oct 28, 2001
    Muskogee Ok.
    Very kool, Brian:thumbsup:
  9. glock2740

    glock2740 Gun lover.

    Jun 19, 2008
    NW Ark.
    Congrats! Nice looking gun. Especially for the price. The other one sounds cool too, except why in the rail did they have to put a rail on it? I'm not a rail fan either. But for those features and at that price, I might could have 1 railed 1911 in the collection.:dunno:
  10. glock2740

    glock2740 Gun lover.

    Jun 19, 2008
    NW Ark.
  11. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    Thanks Ruggles, but this isn't the .22, my friend. :wavey:

    This is a 45ACP from the Philippines. ATI's .22 is German. :)
  12. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    Thanks Joe.

    I just looked at that site a couple days ago and the guns were not on there. My dealer was told they were getting them posted though.

    There seems to be a few other models too. However, I don't think they're quite released yet.

    Last edited: Jun 24, 2010
  13. jrs93accord


    Jul 10, 2005
    Pensacola, FL
    ATI has a line up of good looking 1911s. That Military Model is really impressive. That is tyhe model I would probably lean towards getting.

    BTW Brian, I just made a trade in which I am acquiring a beautiful 1995 Les Baer Concept VII Commanche that has the BAER Tuff finish. This pistol still looks new. Pics up after I get it in next week.
  14. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    I'm sure you'll be getting one, James. ;)

    I figured you would like it, and why not, its a good example of a USGI replica. :)
  15. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    No, they aren't all flat topped and those that are, aren't be much. The models I list are some of the heaviest 1911s I own.

    The bottom line in that this ATI weighs 2 to 3oz more than any other GI I own, including two real WWII USGI 1911A1s.

    Here is a list of the weights of my 1911 collection from heaviest to lightest in oz. As you can see, the ATI is very high on the list. No other GI model is even close. The TRP, RRA, and Unertl are the only 1911s heavier, while the Enforcer is the same weight.

    Springfield TRP 42.0
    RRA Limited Match 41.4
    Unertl DLX 41.4
    ATI Military 41.2
    Nighthawk Enforcer 41.2
    Pistol Dynamics Signature 41.0
    Ed Brown Classic Custom 41.0
    Colt Special Combat Gov. 41.0
    Springfield TGO1 40.8
    Iver Johnson Eagle 40.8
    Volkmann Combat Custom 40.8
    Smith & Wesson PC1911 40.8
    Kimber Super Match 40.6
    Taurus PT1911 40.6
    Wilson Super Grade 40.4
    Sig STX 40.4
    Guncrafter No Name 40.0
    Wilson CQB 40.0
    Smith & Wesson SW1911 39.8
    RIA Government 39.8
    Desert Eagle 1911 39.8
    Valtro 1998 A1 39.6
    Les Baer SRP 39.6
    STI Legacy 39.6
    Auto Ordnance 39.6
    Remington Rand USGI 39.4
    IAC Regent 39.2
    Les Baer Concept V 39.2
    Infinity Custom 39.0
    Colt Gold Cup 39.0
    Thompson Custom 1911 39.0
    Norinco 1911 39.0
    EGW Custom 38.8
    Dan Wesson Valor 38.8
    STI Trojan 38.8
    Detonics Service Master 38.8
    Firestorm DLX 38.8
    Ithaca USGI 38.8
    Yost Retro 38.6
    Para 1911 Limited 38.6
    Nighthawk Predator II 38.4
    Charles Daly EFS 38.4
    Springfield GI 38.4
    STI Spartan 38.2
    Fusion Commander Elite 38.0
    Kimber Custom II 37.8
    Para GI Expert 37.8
    AMT Hardballer 37.0
    Dan Wesson CBOB 35.8
    Ed Brown Kobra Carry 35.6
    Colt Commander XSE 35.6
    Kimber Pro CDP II 29.0
  16. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    Congrats James!!!! :cool:

    I believe this will be your first semi custom, if I'm not mistaken. :banana:
  17. Quack

    Quack Rent this space

    Jan 7, 2002
    NE Ohio
    I thought you were limiting you 1911 purchases for the year :rofl:

    So much for that :animlol:
  18. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004

    Don, I am actually believe it or not. This is one of five more from now until December 31st.

    The other four are as follows:

    1967 Colt Gold Cup NM - Won on Gunbroker last week - already paid for and should be here next week

    Remington R1 - I'll probably pick this up in August or September

    Morris Custom Tactical Elite - Ordered in April - Should have it next month or early August - already paid for

    EMF Hartford - Already at my shop. I just have to pick it up, but I'm going to wait a while.

    As you can see, the expensive ones are already paid for, so I'm just going to space out the others. I'll be up to 56 1911s by year's end and will take another family pic. That will leave me four to go to complete my collection of 60 models. I'd like one more semi custom and a couple classics.
  19. Quack

    Quack Rent this space

    Jan 7, 2002
    NE Ohio
    ah....looks good. i'll have to keep my eye out for the railed one. :)