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Air Marshal Drills

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by Allegra, Dec 22, 2005.

  1. Allegra

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  2. horge

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    Using a stock, standard-issue handgun AND a real concealment holster
    is all that's required to 'handicap' IPSC racers.

    The "One Round" drill seems the hardest to me.
    Everything else (more time overall and/or low-ready start) seems do-able.

    :)
     


  3. Alexii

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    Allegra-- would you have the dimensions of the "bottle" of the FBI target? Very interesting link, thanks.
     
  4. Allegra

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    Wala eh , try google pero I belive yung overall target is parang IPSC target na rin
     
  5. Allegra

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  6. Eye Cutter

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    kasali ba mga idpa champs ng BoG? hahaha!

    Calling gundog, single stacker, Mc0, taurus!
     
  7. horge

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    a QIT "bottle" target (in this case QIT-99)
    23"x35"

    [​IMG]


    While we're at it...

    I never implied that IPSC racers don't know how to draw from concealment.
    All I said was that the only 'handicap' required to level the playing field
    (which is essentially what handicaps are for) was use of standard issue equipment.

    Any claim that IPSC racers need more than such a 'handicap' is ultimately arrogance,
    as if only IPSC racers can shoot swiftly and accurately.
    I assure you it isn't so.

    :)
    Merry Christmas,
    horge
     
  8. Allegra

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    Well, I never implied non-ipsc'rs couldnt shoot fast and accurately either, though I have yet to see one hehe
    Pero....a C class would probably ace that drill
    Arrogance ? Maybe but I'm just stating what I've observed in my short career as a shooting enthusiast
     
  9. Allegra

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    Pa postal match kayo doc, project ng BOGS hehe
    Basic drills lang na madali gayahin so other members could compare scores and malaman ang kailangan improve
     
  10. Eye Cutter

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    that is a good idea. piliin natin ang mga drills to include in the postal match!

    amoy away na naman, ah?! hahahaha! ;e joke lang!

    majority of shooting enthusiasts who compete use up a lot, lot more rounds than those who don't. all things being equal, getting good in shooting is partly how many ammo you use up. volume shooting, like what gundog does, gagaling ka rin eventually! hahaha! that is to say na wala ka na bad habits like flinching, etc. ha? although it is more expensive, the more you shoot, the better you get to know the feel of the recoil and your gun's handling characteristics.

    so i will agree with fafa allegra's observation.
     
  11. Allegra

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    hehe We were just trying to keep the forum more intersting :) pampataas ng rating kung baga

    Hindi lang sa dami at quality ng practice in my observation
    If we take two guys , give them the same amount of ammo and practice time, tapos yng isa mag compete the other hindi
    Lumalabas mas magaling and mas mabilis improvement nung nagcocompete

    Hindi lang naman sa shooting yan

    :)
     
  12. Seconded.

    Like any other activity or sport, constant (and correct) practice will help you a lot in perfecting your form. Someone who sends downrange tons of lead will definitely have an edge over another individual who only does dry firing drills and occasionally do some live fire on weekends.

    As what we may have noticed, avid IPSC pistoleros like Rob Leatham, Brian Enos, and others in this league are always at the top of the heap in any discipline involving firearms i.e. IDPA, USPSA, Masters, etc. They may not be the overall champs but they usually end up in the top 5.

    IIRC, Rob Leatham, when asked how often he does dryfire exercises answered: " Very seldom. I spend a lot of time in the gunrange so I have very little time to do dryfires."

    One observation: I have particpated in some local matches with a variety of COFs from simple to complicated ones. Notably, in a very challenging COF, the gap in the scores of the skilled competitor against the mediocre ones, dramatically widens. Conversely, in a simple COF, the gap in the scores between the two is not so pronounced. Go figure.

    Of course, as what Doc EC said, let us not forget Gundog when we mention the likes of Leatham, Enos, et al.;f
     
  13. scowan007

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    Curious as to why info that might be relevant to ALL shooters would be put in a (semi) foreign language forum within glocktalk when ALL GT members might benefit from the info????????

    What do Air Marshal drills have do do specifically with Filipinos?

    Why not post this in GNG??
     
  14. PMMA97

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    Anyone? Horge ;f? I think explanations must be stickied ;f

    Nice Bullmastiff(?) puppy you got there scowan007 :)
     
  15. horge

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    Hi scowan :)
    Why post a general-interest topic in a 'Filipino' forum?
    Well... perhaps the thread-starter was interested in eliciting Filipinos'
    responses and perspectives, but that's just a guess.

    You do raise an interesting point.
    :)



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    Allegra,

    If it's 'spicing up' the thread that you were after...
    Why, then you know what it's like to your words misrepresented, ;)
    though in my case, I didn't attribute anything directly to you.
    Now, to quote you more fully:
    Ah, so then you WERE implying it ;)
    How many hundred?/thousand? shooters have you observed, Allegra?
    As scowan's post shows, it isn't just the Philippine population
    of shooters that's being involved in this thread, so you can't summarily presume IPSC supremacy.
    IDPA, Paladin, and others seem better-geared (<--literally) towards
    the FAM Q-drills you're flogging.

    And besides...well,...
    Er...well...
    Ah-hehe hmmm. Okay.

    **sigh**, I give up ;f
    I tried to make an argument out of this ('to spice things up'),
    but it's Christmas Eve, and all I really feel in me
    are gratitude for God's love, and contemplation of the Christ-child's birthday.

    Again, Merry Christmas!
    Good luck with this online shoot.
    :)
    h
     
  16. Eye Cutter

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    hahaha! exciting talaga! merry xmas to everybody!
     
  17. scowan007

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    Hey PMMA,

    That little goofball in my avatar is my South African Boerboel, named Iggy. He's about 120lbs now and still going!!

    Sorry i didn't know how to say that in Tagalog.;f ;c
     
  18. Allegra

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    umm...idpa? no comment :)whats paladin?

    I've seen enough dito sa atin and I dont think I want to see more hehe

    Sa states...ewan ko , baka the stateside BOGS can relate what they see

    Sa australasia we were squaded w/ an elite paratroop unit of an Asian country. Kangkungan sila finulot
    Although I've heard magaling na sila ngayon ( of course, nag ipsc na eh :))

    Let's make it simple , Fernando Alonso drives F1 cars
    Kahit bigyan mo siya ng fx at ako naka isforts car, di pa rin ako manalo sa kanya, even though I drive everyday

    or who swims faster , a lifeguard or a college varsity swimmer?