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AARP from an email going around again

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by lethal tupperwa, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. F350

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    The ones I got/get have a prepaid return envelope, I stuck # 7 1/2 shot on a piece of duct tape the size of the envelope and sent it back with a simple large type message "F____ Y__".
     
  2. Wake_jumper

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    Well said, bravo! :thumbsup:

    My parents paid in the maximum to SS all their working lives. They receive a whopping $1800.00 each month.
     


  3. F350

    F350

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    Perhaps after being forced at gun point to contribute to SS and denied the opportunity to take that money and make a REAL investment for retirement they just want to get their money back!!! If I am FORCED to help pay for the band; damned straight I'm gonna dance!!!!

    Is that all you have liberal!!
     
  4. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    If they were getting their money back I would agree with you. Instead they support the government turning the gun on their kids and grandkids to take money from them. That despicable.

    Me liberal? You're the one defending socialism and wealth redistribution. Check your underwear. It might be pink.


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  5. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    Why do you object to the AARP?


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  6. Glock30Eric

    Glock30Eric .45 ACP

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    Are you saying that you just turned the junk mails back to the senders by saying that you don't live there or what?

    Does it stop the junk mail senders to send you the junk stuff? I would like to know if it does work.
     
  7. Glock30Eric

    Glock30Eric .45 ACP

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    You missed the big picture. Many seniors relied on the SS money so they could pull a 2nd loan for a big fancy stuff. If it wasn't for the SS money and they won't even apply for the 2nd loan at all.
     
  8. wdp

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    Every month they send me my temp card and an invoice. I place it in the circular file.
     
  9. Glock30Eric

    Glock30Eric .45 ACP

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    Remember this, the life expectation in past weren't that long enough. This is from SSA website,
    Link: http://www.ssa.gov/history/lifeexpect.html

    So right now SSA is in a full of brown place because the life expectancy in America have raised to 78.

    In short, SSA was giving the Americans a false hope that they could get retirement $$ by put the minimum retirement age beyond the America's average life expectancy at that time 1930s).

    In a really sum, SSA is a scam and false hope for the Americans.
     
  10. pugman

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    My tune will never change.

    When I get old enough will I take social security…of course its my money. I never said you shouldn’t take it. I’ve never directly blamed baby boomers for its evitable failure. As I stated the system was poorly designed from the start. Baby boomers will just be the last generation who will probably get close to the amount they put into it. I won’t nothing more than what I put in-heck, at this point I would be willing to take 50 cents on the dollar if it means I never have to contribute ever again.

    Do I believe social security will be there for me to take by the time I’m allowed to retire is the more important question? I say allowed because the age I’m allowed to take it and get my full monthly allotment has been bumped at least once. Who is to say it won’t be bumped again? Remember, the reason for this is simply an attempt to extend the fund’s integrity. I’m an accountant; I’ve run the numbers. Anyone my age who doesn’t take social security as soon as they can is foolish? The difference in the monthly payment vs. the amount I could collect between say 62 and 65 yields a difference of 12 years.

    In other words, if I took $500 a month at 62 but could get $650 a month at 65 the difference is $150/month – but I can also start collecting it 3 years earlier. I would have to collect until I’m 74 before the numbers start favoring taking it at 65 – and we haven’t even included interest or inflation. And no, $500 and $650 isn’t my real allocation but the numbers still play out the same…12 years between 62 and 65…IIRC its about 9 years from 65 to 70

    But the even more important reason to start taking it earlier is to get out of it what you can. I’m not yaking about how the system is doomed because I read some blog on some site…the social security administration says it is. If the bank you have your money in said “JB, we will be bankrupt in a year” are you going to keep putting your money in there? How about this…JB we need you to keep putting money in our bank so we can pay our older customers. Rest assured, we will come up with some way to make sure you get your money.

    But here is where I blame baby boomers. 1) the system is going to fail - it was designed to. Ask any Baby boomer today if they would take a cut in their monthly check-how many takers do you think I would get? And before you start spouting some socialist garbage about taking care of these people and how they are on a fixed income guess what – social security was never designed to be someone’s only retirement program. You failed to plan for your retirement properly – you are now making your failure my problem. 2) The baby boomer attitude seems very clear. I want my cake, but I will leave the bill to my children..and grandchildren. 3) No one….and I mean no one is talking about a plan of ridding us of this albatross – why? Votes. AARP is commonly thought of as the strongest lobby group in Washington-they lobby to keep their baby boomer membership happy 4) The fund’s vitality has been under their watch since the mid 60’s. It’s not like this problem creeped up yesterday.

    Baby Boomers will be the first generation in the history of the U.S who leaves the country in worse shape than it was given to them.
     
  11. certifiedfunds

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    If its their money they're getting back, just allow young workers to opt out and walk away. What's the harm?


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  12. janice6

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    I have a quality shredder. It takes the AARP envelope and all contents in one pass.
     
  13. I do blame the baby boomers. Demographic information was largely known by 1980s what was going to happen. My father said there was people pointing out there was problem back then but in usual fashion, nothing was done.
     
  14. JBnTX

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    How is that the fault of the baby boomers?
    What should they have done to prevent the problem?
     
  15. certifiedfunds

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    don't apply for benefits.
     
  16. Vast majority of Baby Boomers were of voting age at that time in 1980. Only those born 1962-1964 were not in 1980 and they were all eligible by 1983.

    By then (1980s), birth rates had been rapidly dropping and life expectancy had been increasing. My mother who had 5 sisters (one was stillborn and other died from childhood disease) only had two children which is same number of children each of my aunts had. Now, 3 out of 6 cousins are at same age my parents were at and NONE of us have kids and I don't plan it. My brother and other cousin does plan on kids along with my 3 younger cousins but two of them said just one or two kids max. We all have access to modern contraceptive to make this happen (and I'm not talking abortion).

    This demographic shift causing this problem is not a sudden surprise. This has been known for decades now and yet, very little was done.

    What could have been done to fix it? They could have slowly pushed up the age instead of rapid moving that will be required. They could have announced means testing. Medicare as well could have been fixed very gradually instead of rapid shifts that will end up hurting some people. Unlike some blowhards, I don't pretend to have all the answers, that's why we are Representative republic instead of mob democracy. I do know current crop of legislators are not getting done, both Democrats and Republicans.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2013
  17. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    I disagree on a couple of points. We're getting closer to a mob democracy and the congress and president are doing what the majority wants by and large. The rest of the time they ignore the will of the people.


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  18. marchboom

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    My thoughts exactly. Baby boomers are victims too!

    My question to the younger folks out there: Are you calling your political hacks and making your thoughts known to them? Yeah, didn't think so.
     
  19. plainsman

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    You can't imagine the porn, and language I've heard coming into the AARP mail room. That is why they stopped using a prepaid envelope, so you have to insert that application with your name on it, so it requires a little extra effort to tell these socialists what they really. can do with that AARP card....

    You cannot insure 30million deadbeats,and 12 million more illegals etc. without bankrupting the system. That is why they had to steal billions from Senior"s medicare, and raid dozens of other sources, to pay for free insurance for the lowlifes.

    That is why they never told you the premium of yobama care.
     
  20. Skyhook

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    Imagine that.. YOU being asked to do what we've all have had to do.

    GOLLY!