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AA# 9 Question

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by wolf13, Aug 7, 2010.

  1. wolf13

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    I am using AA# 9 to reload my 357 Sig and tried it in my 357 Mag. Can it be used in the 9 mm I looked in my books and did not see any info for it. I shoot 115 & 125 in my 9 MM Thanks for any help.
     
  2. WiskyT

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  3. srd

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    Unless you are loading for 9 major then i wouldnt use it. Its very dirty until you push it past a safe limit in a normal barrel. There are several other good powders out there. Try solo 1000 for example. Clean burning..accurate..barrel doesnt heat up after multiple rounds like some other powders do.
     
  4. wolf13

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    I am using Unquie now for my 9mm but hate the way it metors, always over or under, I am looking for a powder that shoots as good but is easier to measure, #9 does this for the Sig loads, but with all loads in the 9 MM being compressed I will not use it. I will finish the Unquie I have, but want to go to another powder so I am asking for help finding a diff. powder, Thanks for any info a long these lines.
     
  5. PCJim

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    Definitely look at W231 (the old standby for several calibers), WST and WSF. You could also use Bullseye, but the others are relatively cleaner burning.
     
  6. MakeMineA10mm

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    AA#9 is my favorite slow-pistol powder. It's far too slow for 9mm loads.

    If you want plinking loads, try W231 - It's a ball powder and so flows easily through powder measures. It's also very flexible. It's my #1 fast pistol powder.

    If you want high-performance 9mm loads, you either have to switch to Herco (which is an old favorite and gives me some really high numbers, BUT, it's a flake powder, similar to Unique, so you'll have to get used to the way the measure throws), or you can try out some Ramshot Silohuette. It's my new favorite medium-speed powder. It's a ball powder, so it flows really well, and it has a flash-retardent, so it's good for SD ammo loads.
     
  7. Black Ice

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    ....:smoking:..

    ..Like others have said W231 is a good choice, also Tightgroup, WSF and HS-6. They all metor great. But I think my favorite and most accurate for the 9mm is 6.0 gr. of Power Pistol under a 124 gr. Hornady jhp. 1250 fps.
    I also use the P/P for my 357 sig. loads. Neat stuff it is.....:notlistening:
     
  8. grenadier

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    #9 is a bit too slow for the 9 mm cartridge.

    The slowest Accurate Arms powder I'd use for the 9 mm would be #7, which does a fantastic job.
     
  9. Hydraulicman

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    i've used AA#9 to shoot 9mm bullets . but those were infront of a .357 sig case:supergrin:
     
  10. fredj338

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    You might be be able to get enough AA#9 under a 124gr bullet to make it useful, but it is really too slow. I am not even a big fan of it in 357sig.
     
  11. wolf13

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    Thanks for all the replys I went by the reloading store that I get all my STUFF from and talked to them they said tite group would work better than WSF in their opinon so I got a pound of it to try. I have bought a lot of reloading stuff there and they are pretty good guys. I will load a few up this wk. and go to the range this wk end. I like mid to hot loads, Really like my 357 Sig, I just got it 2 wks ago and I have only used AA# 9. Fred you said you did not like it in this gun which powder do you like better. As I am always trying new loads. Thanks for all the help!!! my WIFE says I need help to get dressed :embarassed:
     
  12. WiskyT

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    :popcorn:
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2010
  13. fredj338

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    Do NOT use the TG in the 357sig. Bullet setback w/ TG running anywhere near useful vel is gonna be bad. Even in 9mm, TG only for light loads. I disagree w/ the gunshop guys prefering TG to WSF in 9mm. WSF is made for the 9mm & 40 IMO, mild to wild. TG is for light to midrange loads, beyond that, just too fast IMO.
    My issue w/ AA#9 in the 357sig is just uses quite a bit to achieve useable vel. Accuracy & vel is better w/ mag primers & top end loads. So I prefer AA#7 or LongShot right now in the 357sig. Bullet setback is helped w/ a full case of powder, which AA#9 does well, but proper die setup & bullet choice prevents setback.
     
  14. MakeMineA10mm

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    WiskyT obviously knows what's coming...

    I tried out TiteGroup when it was fairly new, because it was getting a lot of good press. I'll never buy it again. I found it to be touchy when you get close to max in any cartridge, not just the 357 SIG (but I think Fred's point is that it is downright dangerous in that cartridge, and you're obviously reloading for it, so...). I also found my groups to be, well, not that tight with it... :whistling:
     
  15. WiskyT

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    I never used TG. I do use Bullseye, lots of it. I figure TG would act much like Bullseye. It has it's place. I don't think that pound will be a waste. BUT, there is a magical aura that surrounds that powder. It gets suggested for things fast powders aren't meant for. It should be great for target loads. A small dose of it with a 124 cast in 9mm should work great, since 3.5 of Bullseye works great. But all of these action shooters using it in places where I don't think it belongs causes everyone to think they should be making 9mm major etc with it. TG should be used for light loads. Heavier loads should use slower powders.
     
  16. Colorado4Wheel

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    TG has it's place. It works well if you load it for it's intended purpose.
     
  17. fredj338

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    That is exactly why I don't understand it's recommendation to newb reloaders, for any caliber.:dunno:
     
  18. Picking Titegroup over WSF???

    While I've had excellent results with AA #9 in both .357mag and .44mag; it's been less than impressive in either .38Super or 10mm compared to other powders; not a choice to consider for the 9mm IMO.

    In .38Super, WSF yields significantly faster velocities compared to AA #9 and does so loaded with significantly less powder.

    Bob :cowboy:
     
  19. fredj338

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    I would only consider TG if it were the only powder available to reload with. There are far too many BETTER choices for just about any caliber.:supergrin:
     
  20. WiskyT

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    I don't get it either. Go to Brian Enos's forum and all the reloading posts are about how they get all these magical results out of TG. I'm willing to bet half the guys on there wouldn't even knwo it if you switched their ammo. And the guys that really are good would win no matter what they were shooting. They go on and on about dot bounce this and that. It's like reading a review of wine "subtle undertones of peat with strong emphasis on woody hues..."

    Then, half the threads are about case blow outs:upeyes: