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A serious bear defense question

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by BuckyP, Aug 25, 2012.

  1. BuckyP

    BuckyP Lifetime Member

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    Ok, so from other threads I've learned that 32 ACP is just fine for bear defense...

    but on a more serious note, given the choice of the two, if hiking in bear country, would you prefer an M1A or some kind of "tactical" shotgun (minimum 8+1) with slugs or similar? What would your ammo choice be, respective to your selection?

    Or, do you think neither of these wouldn't be adequate with some of the larger varieties of bear?
     
  2. method

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    Probably just a regular 4-shot 870, loaded with Brenneke Black Magic or Dixie slugs.
     


  3. FireForged

    FireForged Millenium #3936 Millennium Member

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  4. M1A is over 9 lbs, a Mossberg 500 is about 7.

    On a hike I'll take the Mossberg.

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  5. n0leafcl0ver

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    shotgun with slugs and a very large revolver on the hip, 500s&w, .454 cassul
     
  6. countrygun

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    I have several "possibles" , any of my "social" pump shotguns, or a SOCOM16, or "tanker" Garand. To kind of echo vafish, weight would be important hiking, and since our black bears are not that big, I'll cheat and go off list and say my Winchester "Trapper" carbine in .44mag.

    I just can't stay in the box :dunno::supergrin:
     
  7. airflyer

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  8. Those Black Magic slugs look nasty. I wouldn't ever want to be on the wrong end of one of those suckers. I bought a box of 5 "just because".


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  9. WoodenPlank

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    Definitely shotgun. I wouldn't turn down a lever action in .44 or heavier, either.
     
  10. UtahIrishman

    UtahIrishman BLR Silver Member

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    It depends in part what kind of bear you expect to run into.

    Black bear...I'll take my Browning Lever in .308 with 180 grain bullets. Plus my BLR is lighter than my shotgun by at least half a pound

    Brown bear, either a shotgun with slugs or my 8 MM Mauser loaded heavy.

    Grizzlies...I haven't been around Grizzlies a lot and don't know too much about their habits. But based on what I've read here and elsewhere the best thing would be to just stay away from them...and a shotgun with slugs
     
  11. Berto

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  12. steve1911

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    Shotgun slugs, or 45/70 lever action.



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  13. Al Czervik

    Al Czervik My arm!

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    That'd be my choice.
     
  14. glock2740

    glock2740 Gun lover.

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    My .45-70 Guide Gun loaded with Garrett's with my 5" S&W .460 on my hip. :cool:
     
  15. alwaysshootin

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    I would think that combination would work for most all scenarios! Four legged or two!
     
  16. BuckyP

    BuckyP Lifetime Member

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    Thanks for the replies so far.

    Seems like the shotgun is the preference. I guess a slug will hit harder / penetrate better than a .308? Didn't think of the weight thing. Sounds like (out of my collection) my Mossy 500 might be the ticket, over one of the heavier Semi shotguns too. On the other hand, my Extrema is a 3 1/2" gun which would offer even more punch. :dunno:

    I have a decent sampling of slugs and sabots. Will have to look into the Black Magic load.
     
  17. Bullet selection matters, but I don't think a 12ga slug will penetrate better than a .308. But it will drill a bigger hole.
     
  18. clancy

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    Man, that S&W is a lot of extra weight to carry. I carried an 870 loaded with slugs when I went backpacking In Alaska back in the 80's. !2 gauge slugs will do all you need to do.
     
  19. svtpwnz

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    Bingo! And those Black Magic slugs are just plain nasty. Obviously I say shotgun with slugs and of course a 10mm sidearm of the G20/G29 flavor.