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A question all of us here should have an opinion on: Doc Holiday

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  1. vrex

    vrex

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    Okay, so as many of us approach, or are in middle age, I KNOW I am not the only movie fan who still thinks about the iconic representations of Doc Holiday from the early 90's In the films "Tombstone" and "Wyatt Earp"

    So whos performance was better...Kilmer or Quaid? Yes, they were set in two very different films, but the performances were both the highlight of each, respectively.

    I will say this, when I was younger, it was Kilmer, as I get older....Quaid

    Kilmer was a more theatrical and glamorous portrayal, while Quaid was more gritty, ragged, and real.

    Either way, my favorite lines from each:

    Kilmer:

    Creek: Damnit Doc you ought to be in bed, why the hell you doin' this?
    DOC: Wyatt Earp is my friend
    Creek: Hell, I got lots o' friends

    DOC: I don't.


    Quaid:
    Earp: Not everyone who knows you hates you.
    DOC: I know it ain't always easy bein' my friend....but I'll BE THERE when you need me.
     
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  2. JLB768

    JLB768 Old & Grumpy Lifetime Member

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    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

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    I vote Kilmer. From the histories I have read of Holliday, he was a little bit of a smartass, and was in more than one scrape because of his unappreciated, but biting, wit. :supergrin:

    Kilmer definitely nailed that part.

    And, I'm betting he was likable, as a lawman like Earp wouldn't have associated with him as a criminal without some other good reason like that.
     
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  4. chpullen

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    Kilmer hands down, but this thread makes me want to watch Quaid's movie but it's so long.
     
  5. skinny99

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    It is still Kilmer for me. I believe it is one of the greatest performances by an actor. It may not be accurate but he makes you fear, respect, pity and care about him all at the same time. Very tough to do.

    I make this statement and don't like Kilmer. I think Quaid is much cooler. But Kilmer killed it.

    Too many great quotes but I like: I'm your huckleberry
     
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    I think so, too.
     
  7. Merlin40

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    I gotta love one of the scenes in which one of the Clantons (I think) said to Kilmer, "You are so drunk, you probably see two of me". Kilmer replied, "That's OK....I have two guns...one for each of you"...It just don't get better than that
     
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    Frederic F'ing Chopin FTW!
     
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    CLoft239 I Like Turtles

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    Kilmer gets my vote

    Sent from the Titanic. I named my phone "The Titanic" so when I plug it into the computer it says "The Titanic is syncing".
     
  10. skew12

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    Definitely Kilmer.
     
  11. RCP

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    Another vote for Kilmer
     
  12. NeverMore1701

    NeverMore1701 Fear no Evil Platinum Member

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    I have no opinion on the subject, and do not care.
     
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    Val Kilmer made that role his forever in my not so humble opinion.
     
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    Kilmer. Not even close.
     
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    Not sure. Kilmer portraid Holliday more like a gunslinger, and he was, as I understand it, more of the sneaky, underestimated, don't-mess-with-me types. IIRC Quaid had him more in that role.

    I thought Tombstone was a better movie and I did love the shootout with Ringo.

    "Got no quarrel with you, Holliday"

    "I beg to differ. We began a game that we never got to finish. Play for blood. Remember?"
     
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    And you took the time to share your pride in that.:rofl: Are you one of the guys who always pops into fast food threads to say how you never eat that stuff?
     
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    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Anyone but Kirk Douglas.

    :rofl:
     
  18. Berto

    Berto woo woo

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    Kilmer made it more fun, but I supect Quaid was more a true portrayal.
     
  19. RenoF250

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    Definitely Kilmer for me. I cannot even watch the other movie. Not because it is bad just because it is not "right" to me.

    Tombstone fights for 1st on my movie list with Man on Fire.

    "Your a daisy if you do."
     
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    Val Kilmer was the best Doc Holiday.

    He's also one of the most under rated actors in Hollywood.

    ..
     
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