I've using the 4 step draw stroke for many of years. Which I've very slightly modified to my type of shooting at the time. I saw this video with Ron Avery about his version of the draw to I thought I'd try it for myself. By the end of day I can draw, fire and hit a 4" circle in around 1sec (.94,.92,1.08,1.05). Tomorrow I will try the trigger stripe target. Video on the draw [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMSlCyc-SQQ"]Ron Avery Talks the Science of the Draw Stroke - YouTube[/ame] Video on trigger press and trigger strip target. Part 1 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azb3q8wOrV4"]TRIGGERSTRIPE DRILL PART 1 - YouTube[/ame] Part 2 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h9rKDEXPvM"]TRIGGERSTRIPE DRILL PART 2 - YouTube[/ame] I would like to have an adult discussion about this and I encourage you to train on it. I am not saying this is THE way or BEST way to do it. I also don't want to hear negative personal opinions about the people involved. Check it out, give it shot, and other than above what do you think. Wanna kill these ads? We can help!