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A few Q's from a noob

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by themighty9mm, May 5, 2010.

  1. themighty9mm

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    I am taking the next step in my shooting hobby. I am going to get started into reloading in the next couple weeks. I am ordering a dillon 550 next week. With that, and being a first time reloader I have some questions. Please forgive me if they have already been answered.
    I am looking at the brian enos site, and the dillon site. I seem to be noticing a few things that in my case, seem to be uneeded. Example a powder sensor... The propellent tube is clear, and on top of that right in front of your face. For me definatly seems to be extra stuff that I wouldnt use. I'm not trying to cut corners by any means. Is a case gauge really needed? What tumblers are you guys using? What sort of bench setup do you have? Pics would be appreciated. I live in Missouri, and it gets pretty humid. I am thinking about reloading in my garage. If the humidity is going to be aproblem I will take it to my basement or my computer room. Where are your set ups at?
     
  2. IndyGunFreak

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    case Gauge, I would absolutely get one...Powder Sensor?.. Not really..

    My setup is in a spare upstairs bedroom. Used to be in the basement, moved it for reasons completely unrelated to humidity, etc..

    IGF
     


  3. unclebob

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    You do not need the powder sensor. I would get the spare parts kit, roller handle, strong mount, and bullet tray.
    You need too decide if you want too load sitting or standing. Get the press first, and then decide on what height you need. I highly recommend loading standing.
    My reloading setup is in the house in the computer room. Me personally I would not load in the garage, or anywhere that was not climate controlled in a humid environment
    Do a search on you should come up with a whole bunch of pictures of reloading setups.
     
  4. Homechicken

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    Case guage is a good idea. You may not need to use it every time you reload, but I'd check the cases with it every few reloads, cases do stretch over time and the gauge will tell you if you need to trim the cases. Of course you could do the same with a set of calipers. I can't comment on the powder sensor, I have a single stage press and weigh each charge individually and then set them aside at arms length to keep them well separated from the empty cases, then use a flashlight prior to seating the bullets to be sure they all have powder. As for the humidity, reloading in the garage may be fine, but I'd store the powder and primers in a drier place, or in sealed separate containers with a desicant pack in each. The containers and desicant is a good idea though, no matter where you store them.
     
  5. ron59

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    Case gauge is a necessity. I case gauge every single round I load. Sometimes the brass splits when loading, and doesn't fit the gauge properly. Other problems occasionally crop up also. I don't want to have to fix a "jam" at the range, I want my ammo to feed reliably. It's just one step of Q/A I consider to be essential.

    Powder sensor is not necessary... like you said it's right there in front of your face.

    I got the Cabelas tumbler... you can get it WITH a bag of corncob media and some brass polish in a "kit"... it's a good deal. Someone else recently asked about tumblers, and the Cabelas one got good reviews. I like mine.

    I live in North Carolina, it's equally humid here. I load in my garage... no problems. I even keep my powder in there and haven't seen any issues related to that.

    I just started a thread where I mention that I just bought the roller handle after loading 15,000+ rounds with the standard one. I didn't get it at the time because yeah, buying all the stuff (plus loading components) is a big outlay of money. But it's only $40, so you can argue either way. It's *really* worth it.
     
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  6. MarcusT

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    The low powder alarm is definetly a waste of money I bought one when I ordered my press and it has never gone off its very easy to tell when the powders low.
     
  7. tlafrance

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    UNLESS.........You're in the middle of a marathon loading session thoroughly "In the groove" and don't notice. Runners get that "high" resulting from a release of endorphins when they hit their stride. Reloaders get the same "high" during extended periods of time at the bench pulling the handle. If you haven't gotten there yet, have no fear. Training is what it's all about. Keep building on your current sessions, adding a hundred rounds or so every week. By the time you hit 1k in a sitting, you SHOULD be at the perfect Nirvana and ready to order your low powder sensor.

    Tom
     
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  8. ron59

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    At which point, he could get the sensor then? There's such a BIG outlay of cash up front, some of the things can be delayed, such as me with my roller handle.

    I also think that the sensor isn't necessary Day 1, when there's so much else being bought. Add it at a later time if you need it.
     
  9. unclebob

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    Unless you are loading large capacity cases that well deplete the powder measure before you use up 100 primers. There is no need for a powder sensor no matter how much you are in the zone
    Whenever I’m loading and the powder measure gets ¾ to ½ empty I refill it when I replenish the primers.
     
  10. fredj338

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    If you are that "into the zone", you probably shouldn't be reloading. Really, the guy pulling the handle is responsible for safe reloads, not the piece of equip. Pay attention to what you are doing, you don't need a low powder sensor or a COP die (650 users).
    The roller handleis nice, but not req'd. The strong mount may or may not be for you, depends on the bench height. The bullet tray, almost useless IMO (yes, I have one on each of my 550B), put the box of bullets on the left & feed from that.
    Calipers, spare parts kit, extra tool heads & powder thru die for each caliber, tumbler is nice, case gages nice (but also not needed). Two reloading manuals. If you haven't already, get THE ABCs of Reloading & read that.
     
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  11. themighty9mm

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    Yes so far I know I am getting the 550, spare parts kit, (I wont be getting the roller handle) We usea single stage press at work with a ball handle for gas checks and I am ok with it. The manuals I think I will go with are the lyman #49, and spear#13 (maybe its 14 I think its 13 though) Beam scale (dillon) Digital calipers, Flip tray (dunno where to find one yet though other than brianeno or dillon) Dies, a tumbler and puller. Then components. I may get a case guage seein as its my first time, and I figure its not crazy expensive, I will also (when I go to another caliber) be getting a spare tool head
     
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  12. Colorado4Wheel

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    Midway sells primer flip trays for 1/4 the price of the Dillon. Dillon has a nice set of dial calipers that have a lifetime warranty. Nothing wrong with that. I would get the roller handle. But I did not buy it right away. I used the press as is for about a year. I added the roller handle. Built a bench @ 45" tall so I don't need a strong mount. My bullets sit on the bench right next to the press. That works fine for me. Cases on the bench to the right of the press. Both in lids from a christmas tin of some sort. I can load over 500 rds a hour like that so I don't think I'm missing much. I like the case gauge. It's cheap, get it. Dillon beam scale is nice enough especially for the price.
     
  13. themighty9mm

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    What about case lube? What is it, and do I need it for pistol cartridges
     
  14. Colorado4Wheel

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    No you don't need it if you have carbide dies. But get some anyways. Get some Hornady One Shot or Dillon Spray lube. Spray a big empty ziplock bag, dump in the brass, shake it around. Your ready to load and no spray inside the case.
     
  15. themighty9mm

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    Will do then, it wont kill the primer will it? Also as far as flip trays go what is prefered metal or plastic? Or does it just not matter?
     
  16. Colorado4Wheel

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    Your going to be using the spray before you prime the case. So no, it won't kill the primers. But just spray the bag, insert brass, shake and your done. It can't get inside the case at all like that. I have used the Lee and the Dillon flip trays. Lee are attached to the press so that not much help. Neither is that great. Dillon is big. So I dump primers on the tray, shake it to get most upright, pick the ones up that are ready to be picked up with the primer tube, then flip the tray and get the others. Shaking the tray for 30secs just to get that one primer to flip properly is a PITA. I just get 95% and get the stubborn ones before I flip the rest of them. Get a big tray. Thats what matters.
     
  17. themighty9mm

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    Youv been much help. Thank you. I'm going to order it all this weekend. Hopfully it arrives soon after.
     
  18. fredj338

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    Make sure you get the extra powder thru die as well. Then you only have to swap tool heads w/ your dies already to go for the next caliber. Welcome to the fraternity of reloading kooks.:rollingeyes:
     
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  19. themighty9mm

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    Yup will do. I really just wanna load n go, so the less tinkering with adjustments the better. Every caliber will get its own tool head/dies/dispenser. I am very excited to get this going. Also it will give me a far better excuse to buy new guns.
    "but honey...I already have the dies, I can't let them go to waste"
     
  20. fredj338

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    IMO, the add'l. powder measure for each caliber is quite a luxury. You have to verify the pwoder charge each time you sit down to relaod, regardless of whether you cahnge it or not, is't just prudent. So having one powder measure works for all pistol calibers IMO. I do have an extra measure for rifle roudns as it takes a diff powder bar.