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A Brief Primer on KB's

Discussion in 'Valuable Info' started by WalterGA, Sep 6, 2004.

  1. WalterGA

    WalterGA Millennium Member

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  2. KNOW 1

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    Is this a US phenominon(how you spel?)? Can it be shown whether or not this occurs as frequently, or non-frequently in other countries? Do they reload as much? Do they use local factory ammunition? As far as the number of Glocks out there, wouldn't there be the same, about, or an equal amount of 1911's, though not all of the same manufacture? On the 1911 forum the list 13 1911 manufactures, and then have a "USGI" and "other 1911's" forums. Although I don't think it is such a problem, as much as it is exaggerated by those who do not favor Glock, I'm beggining to believe, "they do have a tendency". I've read enough posts by seemingly experienced Glock users, that are in between negative and positive, i.e. "I still use Glocks after mine Kb'd", or "I saw one Kb". This, however is not what is convincing me, it's the fact that the argument about Kb's is starting to sound like the, "1911's are 100% reliable out of the box", "just as reliable as Glock" and "it's the lower grade manufacturers that make them look bad" argument. Of course, who'd believe anything they read on the internet, anyway?

    I've pile the logs, but, please, try to find it in your heart to forgive me.
     


  3. Guest

    Unless you have chillin's in the house, leave it loaded and in the holster. That's what I do. Off my hip, and onto the dresser, still in its holster.
     
  4. I'm not worried about Glock KB's but if I was it would be with .40's and .357 not a .45 low pressure round.
     
  5. fabricator

    fabricator Got Biodiesel?

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    ^8 Where the heck did you get that cockamamy idea? If you are worried about bullet setback just check the rd against a new one from the box.;)
     
  6. Bullet setback is more of a problem with .357 than anything else.

     
  7. Glock-N-Fun

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    To keep bullet setback in check,place a black ring around the bullet at the case mouth with a marker.
     
  8. Glock-N-Fun

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    CG,

    Thank's,i keep forgetting that there are glockateers on this board that haven't been around firearms that long.
     
  9. mballai

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    I believe the issue of Glock KBs that are not absolutely ammo related, are probably more how a gun handles high pressure. I gave up a much liked Glock 30 when the 45 KBs started surfacing. No I didn't believe it was going to KB, but guns don't always scale up the same: compare a .40 HP with the original in 9mm. I am not sure if they can beef up a polymer frame in the event you get some off spec ammo. My take is that Glocks are best in 9mm packages. If nothing else stay away from cheapo ammo.
     
  10. Ulysses

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    Any firearm can fail if it gets old, is misused, wears out, used out of design, or is loaded with dangerous ammunition.

    Glocks require correct handling, and ammunition which complies with the specifications.

    If you push them beyond their capabilities beyond the break point you get KBs....

    Just use it correctly it will serve you well.

    No reason to drink kool-aid and chant... ;)
     

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  12. fabricator

    fabricator Got Biodiesel?

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    No reason to go all sheepleish either.
     
  13. Guest

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    Sugar free, of course ;b
     
  14. Glock4Life

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    Well done post by WGA. I'm glad they finally stickied the KB issue. Being a graduate of both H.S. and college physics, I must concur with the original poster. Oh, and I'll take my Kool-Aid with a touch of Grey Goose please.;)
     
  15. petej88

    petej88 Millennium Member

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    I cannot get this catchy tune out of my head, "kool-aidmmmmmmm".;c
     
  16. BrokenArrow

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    Not as good as Dean's kB FAQ, but not bad. ;)

    Unsupported chambers may contribute to case failures, and case failures may contribute to kBs? Beats me. More support is better than less (until it interferes w reliability anyway) but enough is all anybody really needs. Glocks have enough for the FBI, DEA, Marshals, ISP, etc.

    Good point though. Many of ruptured bbls I have seen (in Glocks, USPs, 1911s, Berettas...) did not rupture at the bottom position where the case had the least support. Many were on the sides or tops of the chamber... and lets not forget "38 Super Face" in 1911s was around long before kBs in Glocks, and 38 revolvers blew up plenty of cylinders too.

    I _still_ think (but can't prove) the 40 cases were, and still are, failing more in all guns than the 9/45 ever did though. The 40 case may be closer to the edge where it gets interesting when you or the manufacturer mess up enough? AND the Glocks may be closer to the edge than some other designs too for a variety of reasons that are not "defects". So what? Live w it; plenty of good benefits that outweigh that risk (if any). ;b