Had to make a trip is NE Kansas for work to inspect pumps and tune on them. Lets just say the Hogs beat them in the Cotton Bowl. After all the work was done we went shooting. He had a nice XDm .45, G17 and a AK. I had my M&P .45, G20, 4" 686P and G-AK. Everything had been shot and then the G20 came out. After he shot the G20 he had to have one. We drove to a LGS in Emporia (sp) and picked up his own 3 gen 20 and a boat load of Silver Tips and Hornady ammo. All at a good price for the local farm boy. So happy he couldn't see straight! And yes,,, he is a reloader. We went back out and he ran the G20 in. Retail ammo shot clean and the brass was fine. But the smile came up shooting some of my ammo. Wondert why? Within 100 rounds he was hooked! and was mad because his XDm .45 shot worse than my M&P .45 with +P 230gn XTP's. Then he figured out how smooth the recoil was on the G20 was even with nuke loads. He turned around and cussed the sob's on the tube that have videos showing more recoil compared to .45 acp rounds. I showed him how I could drop my LW barrel into his new G20 and make it better. I thought he was going to have to find a rock pile and cow to relive himself. We just got another 10mm vert! And I must say I had a great time working with him and shooting whit him. It was well worth the extra time and getting home late. Before I left. He joke'd about how us Arkie boy could take a turkey at a 100 yards over a hill and through a rock pile and tree's. And not think a thing about it. Funny how things work out.