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Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by PurpleAngel, Sep 16, 2012.
For head shots under 500 yards I think they are all about the same.
Another flat shooter you didn't mention is 10MM. Even the 200 grain XTP from DoubleTap only drops 8" at 100 yards and has more power at 100 yards than the typical .45 has at the muzzle. A 165 grain hot 10MM is dropping 6".
Underwood 135 .40 out of a Glock 35 is a kick at one hundred yards on steel.
Would using a 12" barrel make a difference (9,.40,.45) for distance?
What powder and can we push the pressure limits?
If I can push the pressure limits to the extreme...
I can get hits at 100 yards on a man sized target. I enjoy taking my G24 out beyond 50 yards now and then. I did it during one range session with a .380 from a 3.5" barrel and a 357 sig from a 6" barrel, difference in arrival time of bullet to target between the two cartridges is noticeable. Took me a while to get a hit with the .380, think it was luck more than anything. With the G24 shooting 357 sig I hold at the center of the target and get regular hits (~2 out of 3, not the best, but I am getting better).
I have all three and would choose option four - 357 Sig.
I use to have a bullet drop chart that covered most of the most common cartridges using a 25 yard zero. I don't know where it is at the monent.
For what it is worth, I am getting about 3 to 3.5 inches of drop out of my Glock 20 with full power 10mm ammunition at 100 yards.
Larry Vickers has done drills with a 10mm Glock 20 where he starts at 50 yards walks back to 100, 150, 200 and so on. He makes hits on steel out to 250 yards. Of course I saw a video where he bends over at the waist and shoots between his legs and hits steel at 100 yards. So I guess even though the 10mm will get out that far you need to have the skill to make it happen.
Here is the video;
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuMCfKXy5d0&feature=related"]10mm Human sized target 250 Meters - YouTube[/ame]
That is one of the reasons that I carry WW 9mm 115gr JHP +p+ loads. They start out at 1400 FPS out of my G17.
First off let me state it's not a "bad thing" to be able to hit a man sized target at 100+ yards with a handgun, but let's be honest - you're using the wrong tool for the job at that point.
I understand you may not always have the right tool, but the effective range of a handgun is sooooo far down the list of things to worry about.....
Well a good shooter w/ a 6"-8" bbl 44mag can do some impressive shooting out to 220yds & beyond. We used to shoot the chicken target for shoot offs in met sil, open sights. Effective hit area is less than 8".
Even though I have a very hot load in my G17, I still don't trust it past 50 or so yards.