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9mm + 45acp powder

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by chris in va, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. My 4# cannister of Bullseye is gonna run out shortly and would like to try something 'better'.

    Here's my setup.

    Both calibers are lead boolits.
    Low-mid power ranges (plinking rounds)
    Bullseye often leaves crap on my arms after shooting
    CZ 75 and Tanfoglio pistols

    I tried Unique (dirty, smoky), Universal (fairly clean burning, limited load data) and 231.

    Anything else I can consider for both?
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2010
  2. 32dgrz

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    Tried and liked WST for both those. The guys on this forum talked about it and they were right. Meters well. Shoots clean.
     


  3. frankt

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    I can't offer you anything new.

    I use W231 for 9mm, .38 spl and .45 ACP
     
  4. Boxerglocker

    Boxerglocker Jacks #1 Fan

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    I too like WST if I was to choose just one power for both 9mm, .45ACP.

    I use it exclusively right now for .45ACP, but still prefer Titegroup for my 9mm IDPA/USPSA loads.
     
  5. njl

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    WST or Clays? Trouble is finding any actual data for WST in 9mm. People are doing it, but published data I haven't seen. My WST .45 loads leave some powder residue on my arms.
     
  6. tjpet

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    9mm:

    115/124grn. 4.8 - 5.4grns. WST
    Taken from the Hornady 4th edition manual.

    147grn. 3.8grns. WST
    Cobbled up on a Powley Powder calculator. My personal favorite.

    .40 S&W:

    180grn. 3.8grns. WST
    This load is from the pages of the GT reloading forum from a few years ago. A great low key practice/gamer load. WST's burn rate is too fast for hotter loads in the .40. Pressures climb quickly and accuracy goes to hell.
     
  7. FLSlim

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    I really haven't any complaints about Unique with either cal. Every time I shoot lubed lead it is smokey regardless of the powder-not so much with jacketed and plated. Altho I find Unique okay, I am starting to work up loads with WSF and think it will work. Also will use it in the 40 as I'm running out of Power Pistol.
     
  8. njl

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    What scares me with that data is, the start charge is more than it takes to make major with 230gr .45acp.
     
  9. fredj338

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    WST works well in both for std pressure rounds. There is little 9mm data though. You can run 4.8gr under 124gr/9mm, 180gr/40 or 230gr/45 w/ good results.
     
  10. hounds2

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    i use hogdon universal for both 9 and 45. nice mild load and seems to shoot clean. not the best for top velocity but a nice moderate powder.
     
  11. orgnova

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    Been using Unique for awhile now. I don't think its dirty. Use it for 45acp, 40s&w and 9mm. Would like to find something different for the 9mm though. Plan on reloading 380acp in the near future and would use that powder choice with the 9s. My 2¢.
     
  12. Ahmid

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    I use Titegroup and 231 for 9 and 45. Both are good, can't tell the difference.
     
  13. Kentucky Shooter

    Kentucky Shooter NRA Life Member

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    I have found for me personally, there is nothing better than Bullseye. I have my RCBS powder meter set to throw 3.8 grains of bullseye. Using this amount in both cartridges I load:

    9mm with 124 grain FMJ bullets and 45ACP using 200 grain lead semi-wadcutters. This amount of Bullseye makes a great plinking and target load in each.
     
  14. njl

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    What's your .45 load? I tried loading 230gr FMJ with universal, and really wasn't happy with the results.
     
  15. I use Unique without any problems at all. Is it really that dirty? I don't plan on eating off of my pistol. Just bought another 8lbs.
     
  16. dsmw5142

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    Solo 1000 is excellent in 9mm and .45 acp both. I use it with lead and moly. It burns clean and there is very little smoke, low recoil and exceptional accuracy.

    It is a fast but bulky powder, so a double charge in a 9mm case is virtually not possible and you can certainly see any error in a .45 case if you're looking, unlike with Titegroup.
     
  17. tjpet

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    Two entirely different calibers with two entirely different pressure ratings.
     
  18. I use Titegroup for both mostly because it's cheap and it works. Sometimes I fantasize about trying VV N320.
     
  19. fredj338

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    Univ runs best when pressures are up there. I found it left unburned powder & mediocre accuracy in the 45acp at anything but +P levels. Univ runs fine in 9mm, pretty well in the 40.
    Too much is made of Unique being dirty. It is most often from running it below midrange levels. Run Unique over midrange pressure levesl, it burns about as clean as any other. If you gamer loads, drop to a faster powder.