I have just started reloading and worked up a load that shoots well but is still a little bit much on the recoil. Berry's 124gr RN Plated 4.4gr Unique CCI 500 OAL 1.150 As I said they shoot well and feed well in my G17 gen4. Just still feel alot like factory. Any ideas would be appreciated. Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine Wanna kill these ads? We can help!