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7.62x39 ammo info request

Discussion in 'The Kalashnikov Klub' started by LUNG-G19, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. LUNG-G19


    Mar 17, 2007
    South Cackalacky
    I put this vid up to see if anyone can identify these ammo tins. I'm wondering if the ammo is steel core?

    I put this up on another forum. There has been some what a difference of opinion between the comments and other info given on the forum. Id like to see if anyone else has any input they would like to share and/or confirm the findings listed in the comments on the video. Some people think it is steel core and its on stripper clips. Any thoughts?

    thanks in advance.
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2010
  2. GIockGuy24

    GIockGuy24 Bring M&M's

    Jul 14, 2005
    With Amber Lamps
    Well it's difficult for me to read the numbers in the video, even when I pause it.

    Here is some valid info that may help.

    Import of steel core 7.62x39 ammo happened in Feb 1994. All Chinese ammo imports were halted in May 1994.

    The first 7.62x39mm ammo imported to the USA was military surplus. It was packed in 2 sealed metal tins per wooden case. The ammo for the SKS rifle was packed in 550 rounds per tin,1100 rounds per wooden case. It was on 10rd stripper clips with 2 or 3 stripper clips per 20rd or 30rd paper wrapped bundle. Some were tied with string and some not.

    All ammo packed in the paper wrapped bundles has steel core bullets.

    The Chinese surplus ammo was also packed in 20 round paper wrapped bundles tied with string in tins of 700 or 720. Wooden cases of 1400 or 1440.

    All Chinese ammo uses bullets made with copper plated steel jackets, So using a magnet is useless because it will be sticking to the steel bullet jacket and not the steel core. The only way to tell if your ammo is steel core is to pull a bullet. Steel core bullets are over 1" long, have a boat tail, and have black sealer on them.

    Only Chinese factories 31, 71, 311 and 351 made lead core ball. (maybe 61 also, but not sure)
    Any other Chinese factory code will be steel core.
    Lead core ball from 31 ALWAYS has a green case mouth seal.
    Lead core ball from 71 ALWAYS has a knurled crimping groove on the projectile.
    Lead core ball from 311 and 351 is harder to tell, but generally the rounds have NO case mouth seal or primer seal and date from 1991-1994
    The earliest known lead core from 31 is 1990 dated.
    The earliest known lead core from 71 is 1988 dated.

    All the commercial ammo was packed in the same style wooden crates as the surplus ammo. The first commercial ammo was the green box Norinco that was packed 20rds per box,600rds per tin, and 2 tins per wooden case of 1200rds. Afterwards all the ammo was packed 60-20rd boxes per wooden case and all the boxes were wrapped in one large clear plastic bag.

    Factory 31 dated 1990 7.62x39 has the 1.040" long boat tail bullet jacket of the steel core bullet but is a lead core bullet (not steel core) and packaged in military packaging. Newer than 1990 factory 31 7.62x39 ammunition has the short 0.915" flat base lead core bullet packaged in commercial type boxes. Other Chinese ammo can have the 1.040" steel core bullets or the short flat base lead core bullets.

    Some pictures at this link.

  3. LUNG-G19


    Mar 17, 2007
    South Cackalacky
    So from what I read, it looks like mine in not steel core. Thanks