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Discussion in 'The Furball Forum' started by Detectorist, Feb 7, 2014.
I'd hate to go through global cooling....
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According to the evil groundhog, we have about 5 1/2 more weeks of it.
In all fairness, it was never global warming. The environmentalist/scientists/whatever said there would be seriously fluctuating weather patterns. More severe storms, hotter summers, colder winters, tornados, floods, etc etc etc. The politicians in that group changed it to "global warming" because it makes for better news stories and such.
Now, whether it is actually happening, and more importantly, whether we have anything to do with it, is a different conversation.
new ice age. adapt to it.
That matches my calender.
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Global warming causes cold weather.
I hear Puxatawny Phil is going to be a cable news anchor. He is very good at telling you what you already know with far more fanfare than was required.
This is looking an awful lot like last winter to me. More snow overall, but the same pattern. Warm January (this year punctuated with negative lows every so often) followed by a colder than average Feb. That lasted until June last year. It was just COLD!
I'm hoping that we've gotten all of our snow for the season plus due to the severity of the cold-snaps we've had, our overall temps are lower than normal. . . leading to a WARMER and WETTER (we need the rain) winter tapering into a mild, mostly sunny spring.
Didn't you hear? This is all being caused by global warming in the arctic causing the jet stream to dip farther south. It must be true. I read it in the newspaper just this morning.
I read a number of years ago that it was the changes in the jetstream that had failed to bring the monsoon season to africa, in turn causing that massive famine we all heard about, in the 80s I think it was.
No, this is not correct. When James Hansen et al first discussed CO2 and its effect on the climate, it was all about man-produced CO2 causing a warming effect on the climate. The "stronger storms" thing only started coming about around the early 2000's because their initial predictions just weren't scary enough. They jumped all over Katrina, with Algore famously saying that MMGW was going to cause lots of Katrinas - never mind that Katrina was only a Cat 3 and that we've enjoyed a "hurricane minimum" for about the last 15 years or so.
Colder winters were never predicted in the models, but some climate "alarmists" use cold weather as "proof" that MMGW causes all sorts of fluctuations - essentially saying that any weather we don't like is caused by an increased amount of CO2. This is not at all scientific, it's simply political nonsense.
The models have predicted roughly a 1 degree C rise over the last 17 years, but instead the global temps remain flat. Therefore their models are wrong, the climate is more complex than what their models take into account, and the idea that a trace gas that really isn't that good at trapping heat can cause a run-away positive climate feedback has always be ridiculous on its face. We know the concentrations of CO2 during the last ice age, roughly 260 PPM versus today's 396 PPM. But that's not really all that surprising, it was also about 260 PPM 5000 years ago when it was actually warmer than it is today.
The "missing heat" that their models say must be here isn't hiding in the ocean, it isn't hiding anywhere. It's simply not there, and the models are wrong. Period.
Seems like a normal winter to me.
I just ran 3 miles this morning in -3F. Why? Because this is winter in NY, and if you want to do something you just go out and do it. That's how it's always been. Just saying -3F is not unusual here.
Shhh. I watched TV once. They said that we are experiencing more weather events because of MMGW. So my mental pump is primed and every storm I see - especially Weather-Channel-Named winter storms, proves that they are right and MMGW is true!
OH THE HUMANITY!!!!
Of course, the hurricanes that killed thousands in Central America in the 90's don't count. . . because they really aren't "Americans." Katrina counts as 24 storms and Thuper-Thtorm Thandy counts as another 349. Because it was BAD! Everyone says so. It was Thuper!
Are you suggesting that somebody has been dishonest to forward a political agenda? I just can't believe anybody would do anything like that.
Its 30, here, and no snow.
And in Australia for the past month, some places have regularly experienced temperatures of 115 degrees and hotter. So why is your little corner of the universe the place from which to generalize about the world's long-term climate patterns?
I call BS on this one.
I guess he is a "denier" as well…...
ETA: I see CCB has already responded. We meet again to battle the ignorance stupidity of the champions of anthropomorphic global warming/climate change.
It was -12 when I climbed in the car to go to work today.
Al Gore, you sorry son of a *****, where is my promised global warming?
It's the old "make a conclusion and find data to support it" method of scientific analysis.