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642-2, finally a pic.

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by TN.Frank, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank Glock4Life

    Oct 11, 2004
    Avondale, AZ.
    I finally got my order from Midway USA so I'd have my grips and speedloaders for the pic. I installed the Wolff spring kit(8# hammer, 13# trigger) and polished up the action a bit, nice, smooth and light but not too light of a trigger pull. Got the Hip Grips installed after I buffed them up to get the "shinny" off of em', and took a pic with my Fobus Paddle holster. I really love this set-up, I can carry with the paddle holster, or "Mexican" style with the hip grips. Anyway, here's the pic.
  2. Bluestreakfl


    Feb 22, 2011
    Very nice looking setup, congrats!

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  3. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank Glock4Life

    Oct 11, 2004
    Avondale, AZ.
    Thanks, I feel like I've come "full circle" back to what I had before I started all this buying, selling and trading,LOL.
    I had that Taurus 605, 357Mag snub for about a year and a half and loved it. Only reason I sold it was because my truck needed some parts to keep it running. Now after going thru a Glock G26, Beretta 92F Compact and PX4 Storm in 40cal I'm back to a 5 shot snub nose revolver,LOL. Only took what, a year or so.
    If anyone wonders why I went with the 13# trigger spring it's because the factory spring(blue color) was the same length as the Wolff 13# so it looks like the factory had a light spring in this gun from the get go so that's why. Also, I polished up the DA sears and sides of the part the trigger spring goes into so it has a silky smooth DA trigger now. Can't wait to get out and put 5 rounds thru it to see how it'll shoot.
  4. glockfanbob


    Aug 27, 2006
    A whole 5 rounds, that will make you proficient. :tongueout:
  5. CTfam

    CTfam DREAM BIG.

    Feb 19, 2006
    He has to save those other 5 for carry! :tongueout:
  6. CTfam

    CTfam DREAM BIG.

    Feb 19, 2006
    PS Great gun. The S&W J-Frames are timeless.
  7. Very nice setup. The blonde sister to my 442.

    I'll even admit to owning the same Fobus holster (my one and only!)....the Fobus paddle holster for the Jframe actually works quite well, every one else gets it's own CompTac paddle.
  8. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank Glock4Life

    Oct 11, 2004
    Avondale, AZ.
    I've shot so much over my lifetime that I really only need to shoot to see where the sights are hitting. I'm JUST THAT GOOD.:whistling:
    Here's 5 from 7 yards, smaller grips do hit your thumb a bit harder and the right grip panel was a bit loose. Tried to tighten it up but it's still not as good as I'd like it.
  9. fastbolt


    Jun 9, 2002
    CA Central Coast
    Don't make the mistake of thinking a factory spring may be similar to some other aftermarket spring just based on overall length. The number of coils, outer diameter, wire gauge and hardening can make for differences.

    The factory rebound slide spring for the J-frame is painted light blue, has 15 coils and is a flattened closed-end design spring. (K/L springs are unpainted and have 17 coils, but also have the same outer diameter as the 15 coil spring.)

    The rebound slide spring is the number one "safety" in S&W revolvers. (In external hammer S&W revolvers the hammer block and minimum single action trigger pull weight are additional safeties.) Cutting spring coils off the factory spring, or using a lighter rated aftermarket spring, can impede the speed of the rebound slide.

    Also, and perhaps more noticeably for owner/shooters, lightening the rebound slide spring can result in a slower, and perhaps less brisk trigger recovery.

    How fast trigger recovery occurs affects how fast you can fire the revolver (without short-stroking it).

    I remember when the former revolver armorer installed one of the reduced power rebound slide springs in my first 642-1. The first (lightest) spring he tried wouldn't reliably let the trigger recover in dry-fire bench checks. The next heaviest reduced power spring let the trigger recover almost all the time during dry-fire checks. The heaviest of the reduced power springs that came in that pack let the trigger recovery all the time during dry-fire. It stayed in the 642.

    However, after a few months of a lot of shooting in various drills, especially those involving fast-paced shot strings, the faster my revolver skills returned, the more often I noticed that sometimes my trigger finger was having to "wait" for the trigger to recover before I could fire the next shot in the more demanding rapid-fire drills. Hmmm.

    I removed the reduced power rebound spring and replaced it with the factory spring. Suddenly (surprise, surprise), my trigger recovery was faster and seemingly more brisk. It easily kept up with my trigger finger.

    Now, if trigger recovery speed isn't a concern, think about something else ...

    Sometimes a particular DAO snub might find itself having to be fired under less-than-ideal conditions, meaning abuse environmental conditions, owner neglect (poor maintenance practices), etc. Thins which may have an adverse influence of the rebound slide moving, meaning things which might adversely affect trigger recovery.

    In such an imagined set of conditions, which spring do you want in your 642? The strong factory spring? Or the lighter aftermarket spring?

    Having experienced having my 642's trigger not recovering fast enough for me to fire subsequent shots as fast I I wanted to fire them during some fast-paced drills, I never want to feel that again, myself.

    A lighter hammer spring may create the potential for light-strikes which may not ignite a primer. Add in the same less-than-ideal influences and conditions that may occur for any particular shooter/gun, and a lighter hammer spring's lacking the force of the factory coil spring might become a potential issue at some time or another.

    Now, if it's just a leisure range gun, used for target shooting or sport, then it might not be an issue that would concern some owners, as all they risk is not punching a hole in some paper target, plinking target, etc.

    All of my half dozen J's use the factory mainsprings and rebound slide springs, but then I only have them for use as dedicated defensive carry weapons.

    Just my thoughts.

    Congrats on the new 642.
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2012
  10. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    Very nice

    Congrats! :cool:
  11. Nicko


    Apr 13, 2007
    Virginia Beach, VA
  12. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

    Aug 21, 2010
    NW Burbs, IL
    Sweet revolver!
  13. ranger88

    ranger88 CLM

    Apr 30, 2004
    Columbia, S.C.
    I've got a 642 with the Talo grips (wood). It doesn't see as much use as I thought it would, but I'm still hoping the wife may warm up to it someday. Still need to get some speedloaders for it.

    Congrats on finding the right carry rig for you!!! Again.....:rofl:
  14. glockfanbob


    Aug 27, 2006
    Guess it's time to start the search for a new gun again. :rofl:
  15. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank Glock4Life

    Oct 11, 2004
    Avondale, AZ.
    Nope, I lived with my Taurus 605 for over a year and a half and was perfectly happy with it. I think this one will fill the hole left by having to sell that revolver nicely.
    I would like to get a full size K or L Frame gun for HD or maybe another 40cal semi of one kind or another but this little gun has found a home to stay. It just fills it's niche too well to ever get rid of it.

    That's why Jerry Michelick actually uses a heavier then stock trigger rebound spring in his guns. He shoots so fast he needs more spring pressure to get the trigger reset for his next shot.
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 25, 2012
  16. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

    Mar 14, 2005
    Do those grips allow use of the speedloaders?

    My factory grips make using a speedloader difficult. Its still possible, but not faster than the speed strips because of the tight fit.
  17. Gregg702

    Gregg702 Gold Member

    May 1, 2010
    Las Vegas
    Give him a month or so, then he will be agonizing over not enough capacity and too short a barrel.:tongueout:
  18. ratf51


    Aug 6, 2010
    NW GA
    Happy shooting!