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Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by RWBlue, Jan 18, 2013.
Lets talk 50 BMG.
It is on my wish list, but I don't know which one.
Mine too. Planning on it this year.
I'd go with the Barret m82a1 because I like semi-auto, but a-max bullets are not recommended in it (feeding issue I think). If you want accuracy maybe you want a bolt gun. I'm more of a blow things up fast guy than a hairline accurate guy.
You might want to check out EDM Arms..I had one of their 50 BMG Windrunners..Super accurate...They also offer the same platform in 338 Lapua...
A couple of AR50s and a McMillan that I know of hereabouts. The ARs are serviceable and accurate but are single shots. The McMillan looks like a great big Remington and just oozes quality... and dollars.
There is another .50 owner in the area but I don't know what he has.
A very cool cartridge for sure...
If you really care about long range work with the 50 BMG you need to get a gun that will shoot slugs like the AMAX, regular ball ammo doesn't have a very good BC and produces a relatively rainbow like trajectory. The AMAX has a 1.05 BC and Barnes has some bronze bore riders in that same area. Don
I've had an AR-50 for several years now, and it's a hoot. The muzzle brake and the weight of the unit really does reduce the recoil to almost nothing...well, nothing to worry about. HOWEVER...the muzzle blast has to be seen, heard and felt to appreciate the power of the round.
Getting harder and harder to find a place where you can get a few hundred yards or more of range. Sadly, I really haven't done the shooting with it I want to in order to try different loads. It is in an expensive investment and a expensive baby to feed on a regular basis.
I haven't priced ammo for it lately, but last time I bought any, it was a few bucks a pop for military stuff. If you reload, the AMAX bullets will cost you over 2 bucks a piece, plus the powder and primer......plus the cost of a press and dies....
There is no way to buy or reload quality 50BMG ammo economically, can't happen. At today's prices, if you can get the powder you need, that alone is about $1.15/rd and primers are much more expensive than typical.
Think you can use your standard reloading press, no way. Specialized presses and dies. You have to be willing to burn serious money to feed that beast.
I'd given the idea of a .50BMG some thought at times but now, the nearest range to me is limited to 100 yds, the next is 200 yds, trivial distances for a Hornady AMAX load. My previous location's range went to 600 but insufficient downrange safety zones prohibited the use of a .50BMG. I suspect that happens fairly frequently.
Then too, once you get over the thrill of destroying cinder blocks, punching paper is no different than any other gun. So, while I will admire anyone's .50, I'm going to pass on it. Don
Please find out.
That is the one on the top of my list.
I like that it is packable.
I like that it is a multi-shot.
I like that it is suppose to be accurate, but how accurate?
AR50 topped with a Burris Black Diamond 8x32 Mil-dot.
I don't like the bullpup designs and couldn't really justify the $ for a Barrett M82.
I've kicked the idea around and almost purchased a used Bushmaster BA50 a while ago. I don't know if I'd ever actually do it though. It's a great round and nothing else you can own as a civilian without special permits can touch it.
If I were ever to purchase another long range rifle, I know I'd want something larger than 300 Win Mag. I'd probably go with a 338 Lapua before I'd go with the 50 cal. I'd do this merely based on cost alone. With this cartridge I can shoot as far as I'd ever want to and still have a cartridge the exceeds the 5,000 foot pounds energy mark.
The cost of shooting a 50 BMG in the amount of which I'd want to shoot it just wouldn't be cost effective even if I rolled my own.
It would still be fun to have one but I'd pass on it for the 338.
With the proper optic's, the factory guarantees sub moa's..Lots of variables when shooting at long distances, with a 2# trigger and proper breathing cadence, you will be right on target..
The optic shown in the pic was a Nightforce 5.5-22×56 NXS RIFLESCOPE...
These are built very nicely.
The only downside is that you have to pretty much dedicate an AR lower to use it. The take down pin holes in the lower have a tendency to elongate until the upper matches the lower against the buffer tube.
High points... it is mag fed (5rd magazine), ships to your doorstep, plenty accurate for the average shooter (c'mon how many people are really going to shoot over a mile).
Serbu has an affordable single shot that is very accurate - http://www.serbu.com/
I have owned a State Arms Big Bertha single shot shell holder. It was a very good shooter and was pretty for a .50 It's the gun in my avitar.
I have also shot 2 Serbus and an EDM Windrunner single shot. All were nice. Serbu was the cheapest and decent all around. State Arms was the most accurate, 1/2 MOA with ITT 750 grn machined hollow points. EDM was very portable and kicked the worst.
If you want a .50 get one. It is expensive but I kick myself in the but for selling mine based on economics. If you decide it's not for you, sell it. You'll get a good price. Most people prefer a gun like that not having their name on the paperwork in my experience.
Edited to add this link http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P499.aspx Good enough scope for the average guy without breaking the bank.
personally handled the Safety harbor, and the Serbu 50's.
I know both owners.
They used to work together at one point, so some parts look similar.
both nice folks.
Quality is top notch on both.
Serbu has one of the most reasonably priced semi auto 50's on the market.
I had an AR-50 for awhile. I would not recommend it unless you want to wear goggles when you shoot it. The brake blows way too much crap back in the shooter's face.
I prefer the brake on the Serbu. Here's my BFG-50A, serial number 15. It is nowhere near as clunky as an 82A1.
I wanted a .50 for years. One of my shooting buds bought a 82A1. Fun rifle at first. The coolness wore off fast.
Heavy weapon to carry/move around.
Price of ammo.
Extremely loud. Every time we fired it, other shooters would stop us/complain, and bi*ch about how crazy we were for shooting the monster.
Unless I win the lotto, I won't buy one.