I have a local sporting goods store that sells the UMC (Remington) 250 round mega packs for $78. Just want to stock up a few for summer training. I've used this before with zero issues and always in the 180g They now carry 165g and 180g. Any direction on which one is "better". I shoot these in a G27, G23, and G22. BTW - my PD ammo is 165g Gold Dot...Did I just answer my question Wanna kill these ads? We can help!