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.40S&W 180gr. vs. 165gr. in G22/23/27

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by PAGunner, Jan 26, 2011.


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  1. PAGunner

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    which grain do you prefer and WHY?
     

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    I like 180gr in 40sw. The lighter rounds can become the "S" word, especially in a G27. To me though, the more important factor is accuracy, so I'd try them all out & stick w/whichever bullet weight/gun combo you do your best work with.
     

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    I prefer 180gr ammo. I am of the slow and heavy camp. I like the perceived recoil of the slightly slower and heavier bullet better also.
     
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    Either one works for me in a G23, I've been carrying 165gr Speer Gold Dots lately since I found a great deal on 5 50rd boxes of them.
     
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    I only buy 180. Softer recoil and per the testing docs I've read consistantly better penetration & expansion.
     
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    This was my thought on it exactly, penetration is better, expansion is almost as good and recoil is better. That being said, I was wondering if anyone using 180gr. ever had any feeding issues, like FTFs or anything? When I got my G19, I was worried the 147gr. bullets were gonna cause feeding issues, but they never did.
     
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    I shoot 180's because I practice with 180's.

    I wish WM carried less grain rounds. Then it would be different
     
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    I will shoot either, but if given the choice I like 165 grain because I find them to be a little more accurate at distance. I am not sure if it is in my head or what.

    I carry 155 grain Gold Dots. They shoot very well.
     
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    I only shoot 180gr out of my 23 and never had a single problem. Big and "slow" is the way to go.
     
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    I tend to overanalyze things a bit. I have been using the 165 PDX1's in the G27, and the 180 PDX1's in the G22. It probably will amount to a hill of beans, but I hoped the higher velocity of the 165's would help make up for some of the loss due to the shorter barrel in the G27. In the summer I use the 135 gr HST's.
     
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    180 is my preference. I have always shot heavy for caliber bullets better than the lighter ones for some reason. I'm planning on trying out a box or two of the 200gr. stuff from Double Tap to see how I like it.
     
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    Currently I use 180's because that's what I found the best price on. However I have & use 165gr too. I see no difference in my G22 & G27.
     
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    To me it's splitting hairs. 15 Grains won't make much difference if you miss; or hit for that matter. It may sound cliche and overly repeated but really, it's about shot placement.

    That said: I tend to prefer faster moving projectiles as they expand better, in the heaviest weight possible (if that makes sense to you). In the .40 S&W that means 155 - 165 grains. Those weights seem to be the best compromise of speed vs. weight in my admittedly limited testing. Although I do hear the 135's hit like lightning and create a massive temporary cavity. Kinda like the mythical manstopping .357 with 125 Gr. HP's at 1400 FPS.

    Me too. My 27 is very accurate with that round when fired by me. So that's what I carry as well.
     
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    How about the 200 grain Double Taps!
     
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    I just got back from the range, went through a couple hundred rounds in my G23. I would say that I like the 180g bullets as well. It wasn't too noticeable at first but after 50+ shots fired I found my grouping to be marginally better at 7-10 yards on a rather small target.

    On another note I tried my new 15lb spring and wasn't not impressed. I'm thinking I'll stick to the factory spring.
     
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    I like the 180 in the longer barrels and the 165 in the subcompact barrels like the 27.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, what does the FBI use now? 180?
     
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    I don't shoot factory anymore but reload. The 180 has less powder and does have a softer recoil.
     
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    I like the 165's, I agree with those that say it is a good combo or weight and velocity
     
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    Wow, I should have made this a poll, seems the majority favor 180gr., which is what I was leaning towards anyway, when I do get a .40.