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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by purrrfect 10, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. Z71bill

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    Is there a standard for +P & +P+ in .380 auto?

    I purchased a P-3AT 6 years ago - I still carry it when I walk the dog - go get the mail - while taking a bike ride - and as a BUG when I travel.

    IMHO the P-3AT is easier to shoot than a J frame size revolver in double action. Long trigger but smooth trigger.
     
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  2. tous

    tous GET A ROPE!

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    Nay, good sir.
    Had it been a mighty 10mm it would have taken everyone's shoulders off in the line of fire for more than 15 miles.

    :supergrin:

    The smallest pistol I holster is a Glock 30. If I just need to dump one in my pocket, it's a J-frame revolver. I suggest that 5 158-grainers at 800 feet per second beats 7 90 grainers at 1100 feet per second. Kinetic energy is about the same --- anemic, but better than throwing rocks.

    Note that the standard .45 ACP 230-grain ball delivers more than twice the kinetic energy than a .380 ACP or .38 Special can.

    What about a J-frame in .357 Magnum, you ask? A reasonable choice, far better than a tiny bullet at mediocre velocity, but they are a bit punishing.
     
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  3. Foxterriermom

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    I bought one of those a little while back and wish I hadn't. I can't hit the side of a barn without being right on top of it.
     
  4. Cream Soda Kid

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    I agree with you.


    My first carry gun was a Bersa Thunder .380. no spare magazine, carried IWB or pocket carry. It was what I could afford at the time. I still have it. I have built up a small collection since then. I have carried the .380, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 9X19, .40 caliber, .357 SIG, .45 GAP, and .45 ACP.


    My smallest gun is the Bersa, my largest is a full size 1911.
    I usually carry 9MM in a GLOCK G19 IWB or a G26 in my pocket or with a Galco JAK slide. Man I love that little holster, it carries and conceals like an IWB but since it rides outside the waistband, it’s pretty darn comfortable. But I digress.


    I feel confident enough with any of those weapons, but the .380 does make me feel a little underpowered. I don’t carry that one very often anymore.
    But like you Eric, I always carry something.
     
  5. LCP with BB hard cast +P in rear pocket at ALL times.
    Out and about and the G26 accompanies the LCP.
    Always

    There are just some places and some situations where only an LCP or similar will do.
     
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  6. ThinkMud

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    Not knocking the LCP since I often carry mine when I don't feel like putting a holster on. But someone once said a great quote. Something like "Carrying is about confidence, never about comfort"

    I try not to carry less than a 26 or 27 most of the time. But +p .380 sounds better than nothing!
     
  7. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

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    Wow. You may be the first to say that in the history of mouseguns.

    Clint Smith said, "A handgun is supposed to be comforting, not comfortable. . . wear the biggest gun you can."
     
  8. ThinkMud

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    That's the one! Thanks:yourock:
     
  9. airmotive

    airmotive Tin Kicker

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    If I'm too far away from a bad guy for me to get 5 of 7 COM hits with my LCP, then I'm far enough away to beat feet and escape!

    I don't carry to hunt bad guys. I carry to discourage bad guys from keeping up with me while I run away screaming like a 4 year old girl.
     
  10. arclight610

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    Odds of encountering a situation where you need to draw your CCW: Not very high
    Odds of just the presence of a firearm diffusing the situation: Pretty good
    Odds of getting into an outright gun battle: Not very high

    If youre gonna carry, you might as well carry a gun that you know you will have on you 24/7 and be comfortable. However, the situation and living area will dictate.
     
  11. ThinkMud

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    I do agree that if you will only carry little 380, then do it! better to have something than nothing!

    It took me forever to get my wife to carry, but now she carries daily with a Smith Bodyguard .380. I couldn't be more happy. I'd rather her carry .22lr than just her Twitch pocket knife :)
     
  12. Bilrus61

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    I choose a .380 not to kill attackers but to stop them from killing me. I think it will do that just fine. Call me a wuss but I would rather have a attacker sueing me in court for what little I have than to have to think about him dead and if I could have, should have,or wished I had done something different. Now to defend my home/family I have .357/.40/9mm......to defend myself "out there" I just want him to go away........bleeding or not.
     
  13. Z71bill

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    I guess I am just that good! :rofl:

    In single action - slow deliberate shots - my J frame with a 5" barrel is more accurate than the P-3AT.

    But point and quickly shoot multiple shots at 10 feet or less - the P-3AT is more accurate than the J frame in double action.
     
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  14. racerford

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    Better run screaming like a 7 year old girl. They are a LOT faster than the 4 year old. You will be a lot less likely to be caught and they still have that really piercing, annoying scream like a 4 year old girl that would deter you being followed.





    :supergrin:
     
  15. G26S239

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  16. 4 glocks

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    I have a G19, G26, Kahr CM9, J frame, and LCP.
    Nothing carries like an LCP.

    I am 54 and only pulled a gun on someone once in my life for SD. In the 1980's I was driving a cab as a part time job.
    At 2 am I was sitting in a 7-11 parking lot. A guy pulled in to the lot, we were the only ones in the lot. The guy for no reason, (I never said a word to him) was telling me he was going to drag me out of the cab, kill me and rip my head off and ***** down my neck ect. ect. He was walking up to my door. I pulled a 2 shot 38 spl. Derringer out and he stopped in his tracks, eyes got the size of silver dollars, and started walking backwards. That 2 shot Derringer ended the attack.
    I am glad it ended like it did, I did not want to have to shoot him.

    The LCP should do just fine in a SD situation.
     
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  18. F14Scott

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    Yep. I usually carry my G23, but have no worries about occasionally carrying my P3AT.

    First, the odds of my ever needing to use either one are extremely low. Second, if I do use one of them, it will likely be me sending multiple rounds downrange at very close distance until the perp falls down or runs away. I consider long-range engagements or one-shot stops as very, very low-probability scenarios.

    Mostly, anything that goes bang and throws a few little rocks will serve my purpose to discourage the bad guy from continuing with his present course of action.
     
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  19. phil evans

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    saami does not recognize +P in .380.
    i've carried kel-tec p3at, ruger lcp, kahr380, S&W bodyguard, diamondback 380.
    still retain S&W, Kel-tec, LCP.
    mouse guns are on the cutting edge of technology.
    for HD now have 9mm - g26gen4 & beretta nano.
     
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  20. G26S239

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