I often go back and forth on this issue. Sometimes I say "9mm 124g +p - or more" and at other times I say "At a likely SD encounter range out in public...9mm short (.380) would be just fine." Kind of like 12g and low recoil 12g used in doors. So what do you think - hit the target issues aside: Are you comfortable with 380 (not that you wouldn't be more comfortable with .9, 40 or 45) and if so what is your favorite brand, style, load in .380? I ask because I saw a sweet little Bersa Thunder... Wanna kill these ads? We can help!