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.380 ammo?

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by frank4570, Nov 1, 2012.

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  1. frank4570

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    I'm going to transition to a .380 at least for a while. Long story, but right now it is a reasonable choice. And a .380 I actually have with me is better than no gun.
    So, anybody have any ammo recommendations? I have no interest in super expensive stuff. I need to run at least 200 rounds for reliability.
    My experience with pistol hunting gives me a preference of flat points over hollow points. Especially where more penetration could be an issue.
     
  2. Tiro Fijo

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    Walmart stocks it. Look for it in the Ladies Section between the high heels & girdles. :whistling:



    :rofl:
     


  3. dkf

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    What gun? A lot of the .380 JHP loads on the market penetrate pretty shallow especially when shot out of some of the longer barrels like a Bersa. Some guys only will carry FMJs or Hardcasts some carry JHPs. I carry the 90gr XTPs in my LCP however the penetration is still marginal. I have some 115gr XTP loads I have been fooling with but have not had the time lately to do as much testing as I need to.
     
  4. NDCent

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    sgammo has 50 rds. lawman for 15.79

    The gold dot hp is a good match.
     
  5. frank4570

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    Jerk.:tongueout:
     
  6. frank4570

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    Keltek. I'm getting it from somebody who has already found it to be reliable. I'll look at what he is using first, but I don't know what that is yet.
     
  7. Glock19Fan

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    My previous testing of Federal Hydrashok and Hornadys XTP both yeilded between 10-12 inches of penetration in gelatin.

    With that said, my Bersa .380 is loaded with FMJs. Partially becuase I like the penetration, and partially becuase I dont feel like spending the money on the JHPS.

    If nothing else, I think the FPFMJs would serve you well.
     
  8. BuckeyePPC

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    Bersa Thunder. Don't let them get to you Frank, in the newest James Bond Skyfall movie, James is issues a Walther PPK/S 9mm Short so we're in good company. :supergrin:
     
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  9. SCmasterblaster

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    A semi-rude response to someone looking for help with a weak round. :upeyes:
     
  10. BuckeyePPC

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    I have Hornady Critical Defense, Remington Golden Saber, my reload Hornady XTP, and some Gold Dot. They all shoot fine although I shoot my XTP reloads more because I can reload cheaper.
     
  11. SCmasterblaster

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    The major ammo makers have tried their best to make a suitable .380 defense round.
     
  12. for the 380 I use Gold Dot. the caliber is very marginal at best but better than nothing. that said I would figure out the best SD load and buy it. if its a polymer gun 50 rounds will do for reliability after 50 rounds of cheap round nose. my thought is you probably get little expansion on hollow point from a small 380 so a bonded GD will should me a little of both. I like to stay away from hardball roundnose ammo in small calibers for SD, small penetrating holes will kill eventually but do little damage, kind of like an ice pick.
     
  13. Darkangel1846

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    There are no cheap .380 Sd rounds....Many carry FMJ's, I think Hydroshoks work well in my Walther and Bersa. I was thinking of going to critical defense but haven made up my mind yet.
     
  14. Ljutic

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    Two of my favorites that I wanted to retest before we got into cold weather. If nothing else, it's good for the chrono graph data.

    http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2012/09/380-fmj-vs-jhp-permanent-wound-channel.html
     
  15. SCmasterblaster

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    I have heard it said that .380s should be loaded with FMJ bullets because the caliber is a poor penetrator. I don't necessarily agree. I mean, a 90-gr JHP moving at 900 FPS won't penetrate?
     
  16. Ljutic

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    It doesn't make the desired 12" penetration minimum so it's generally dismissed as unsuitable.

    Bump the weight up 25 grains and up the speed by 200 fps and it's now a 9mm that can consistently make 12".

    You won't see me offering to stand in front of any of them.
     
  17. SCmasterblaster

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    And just who says that 12 inches of gelatin penetration is a requirement? What is that based on? People aren't made of ordnance gelatin. If a .380 bullet can penetrate the skull and go another three inches, then it is a winner.
     
  18. dkf

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    If you want a JHP that will penetrate pretty well the 102gr Golden Sabre will do it. It just is not a reliable expander because it is going so slow, especially out of an LCP, P3AT or P380.

    http://greent.com/40Page/general/fbitest.htm
     
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  19. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

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    I carried FMJ in my P3AT back when I had one. With the short barrel I wasn't confident a JHP would expand much, and if it did wouldn't penetrate.

    FMJ was more reliable in my gun also as mine was not very reliable. I ended up selling it after a year.
     
  20. KIDRAY

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    I own 2 380 Auto handguns, a Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 380, and a Sig Sauer P238. 380 Auto ammo is more expensive than 9mm, therefore I reload my practice rounds, and purchase Gold Dot ammo for my protection rounds. My primary carry is a Sig Sauer P938 9mm, I did look at the Kel-Tec and Kahr handguns, Sig Sauer and Smith & Wesson are of a higher quality construction and materials.

    As for the rude post about the 380 Auto in the womens section, A person can be taken out with .22 caliber ammunition.
     
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