On some other threads outside of caliber corner, people have said the balistic difference between .357 snubbie and compact 9mm are merely academic. Instead of muddying up those threads (which were about other non-caliber issues), I thought I'd ask: How fast does a short barreled 9mm throw a 158gr hunk of lead? And how does that compare to the .357 mag? Heck, I'm not even a fan of the snubbie .357 because I prefer .38 special for less flash and recoil, but I don't buy the argument that .357 and 9 are the same. Anyone got some numbers or an opinion? You snubbie .357 guys are crazy, but you still bring an advantage to the table.