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357 mag for white tail deer?

Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by G17Jake, Jan 26, 2004.

  1. G17Jake

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    Is the 357 mag powerful enough for deer hunting, and if so what are the limitations.
     
  2. ILikeFtLbs

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    Yes, absolutely. I'd use a 158 gr bullet. 75 yards is the distance I'd reserve for a pistol because of accuracy, but the round will do the job out to about 125. I assume you're talking about a minimum of 4" barrel length.
     


  3. Ragsbo

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    What ype of bullet do you use, soft point of hollow point? It will do the job if you do yours (as it is with all weapons).
     
  4. ubimow

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  5. tjpet

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    I use a handload consisting of a 180grn. hardcast lead slug @ 1100fps. This round has penetrated well from all manner of odd angles and got the job done. Never killed a deer over 50 yards with a .357 so I don't know what this load will do at distance on BG.
     
  6. 357mag would be an excellent round for deer. I use Winchester Sivertips. I have even taken deer with a 38spl.;)
     
  7. Steve in Utah

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    How would Hornady 180-gr. XTP's or Winchester 180-gr. Partition Gold perform on deer and is 140-gr. to 158-gr. too light for light skinned game?

    Any other suggestions for commercially available .357 hunting ammo?
     
  8. Sixgun_Symphony

    Sixgun_Symphony NRA4EVR

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    Do not use the light hollowpoints, you need penetration. So go with the heavy, hard cast bullets.

    I recommend using the .38 Special brass from Starline and Lyman's #358429 (Keith's 168 grain SWC) with 13.5gr of 2400. Use standard primers.

    This load is only safe in the Colt New Service .38 Special, Colt Model P in .38 Special, the S&W .38/44, and the .357 Magnum revolvers.

    Do not use this load in a .38 Special revolver that is not listed above!
     
  9. Steve in Utah

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    I don't reload anymore - hence the need to inquire as to some manufactures who make hardcast bullets and what grain do you recommend?

    Although I'd normally stay away from HP's on deer, isn't the 180-gr. heavy enough on light skinned game at shorter distances like deer?
     
  10. Sixgun_Symphony

    Sixgun_Symphony NRA4EVR

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    A .357 caliber bullet of 180gr weight should have enough sectional density for adequate penetration.

    You don't reload anymore? You know there are some real bargains on eBay for used reloading equipment. If space is a factor, then you ought to check out the Lyman 310 tool.
     
  11. Bonk

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    My dad uses 180gr XTP's in a Marlin 1894 and S&W 686, both scoped with 2x28 Weaver handgun scopes. The rifle is zeroed at 50 yards and the S&W at 25 yards. Use quality bullets, keep distances reasonable, and pick your shots, and you should do fine.
     
  12. muddydog

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    i have shot a few critters with a 686 classic and the best performers were the 180gr solid types (prefer cast lead) numerous companies make commercially loaded ammo like this. at ranges less than 30 yards it would be tough to beat 180XTP.

    the key to a 357 revolver in deer hunting is being less than 20 yards.
    it smokes them at 1st down and goal range.

    this of course on average whitetails under 140lbs (dressed).
     
  13. duncan

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    fine - close inside 50 yards.

    Nice guide gun or long barrel revolver
     
  14. ACP or Colt?

    I've shot several deer with a .45 Colt. First couple were with the 200 gr. Speer JHP (aka Flying Ash Can) at about 1400 fps out of a 10" TC Contender. It wacked them pretty good. But the bullets broke up and never exited the body. I had one run only 10 yards but I had trouble finding it in the thick brush, no blood trail. I switched to a 260 gr JHP. They worked fine.

    I'd use a .45 ACP on smaller deer. I'd stick with one of the 230 gr JHP's. The Winchester White Box 230 gr JHP from Walmart gives pretty decent expansion and penetration.
     
  15. alphacat

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    I read about your great weight loss, my hat is off to you sir...^c