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Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by EL COLONEL, Oct 12, 2010.
Anybody hunt with a 300 rum ? Pros and cons ?
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Assuming you are talking about the RUM and not the RSAUM then I'll simply say its a cartridge that is a helluva fast shooting .30 cal. But it comes at a cost, both in terms of money AND recoil. And while money may or may not matter for you there isn't a shooter out there who isn't affected by recoil and this cartridge has it!
There is really no practical advantage to this cartridge even over the more standard 30/06 class cartridges unless you shoot deer at 400-500 yards where it will buy you a little more useable downrange energy. But really, the MPB range for this gun is probably around 340 yards while the MPB range for a 30-06 is going to be around 290-305 yards depending.... So the RUM buy you a tad more MPB range but not much.
If you don't know what Max Point Blank range is there is no point in discussing the RUM cartrdige anymore as you clearly don't hunt at extended ranges anyhow...
Have not hunted with one but have shot 2 different rifles chambered in the round. I personally can not understand why I would hunt with one. Recoil is rediculous, if I was going to take the pounding for it I want something bigger than .30 to give it to me!
I have one in a Ruger #1, and it's a nice round for certain purposes... If I were an avid Elk, Moose or maybe a Bear hunter then it would have a very golden role to play... Here in N.W. Louisiana deer and wild hogs are our big game and it works fine, but a little unecessary... I've been shooting larger rifles for most of My life, so the recoil doesn't bother Me but within My parameters it won't accomplish anything that My .280 won't or even smaller cartridges like a 25-06 - .260 - 6.5 Swede - 7x57 - 7mm-08 etc... I have vowed to not shoot a deer over 300 yards, so it sits in the safe most of the time unless I'm just burning powder for grins of it... Again I'll say it's a nice round if You have a niche for it...
But as others have said it kicks hard So if you do not like Recoil pass on it.
But this is the first gun that I got good at hitting targets at over 300yards
Needs a good scope to, the recoil will knock off your zero. on a cheap one.
I have yet to hunt with it I cant afford to go on a elk hunt and you cant use rifle for deer in Ohio.
What R U hunting with it that requires it or requires anything bigger than a std 30-06 or 300 winny the pooh?
About 10 years ago I picked up a 30-378 Weatherby (very similar to the .300RUM) with the idea of taking deer across some of the blue berry barrens around me where a + 300 yard shot would be possible. While the unit is a hoot to shoot, and I can do Ok off a rest, or a bipod, I quickly realized that at least for me, I have no buisness taking a shot at a deer off hand at those distances. I'm sure a lot of folks can..but I couldn't do so in good faith. Plus, the idea of sitting still, on the edge of field waiting for something to walk out of the woods seemed pretty boring and I'm not that patient.
The 300 RUM kills on both ends...and for general hunting, I'll agree with those who say the 30-06 is enough gun in 99% of hunting, and more than enough in my neck of the woods, where less than a 100 yards is the norm due to the thick woods.
If you're a good shot, not worried about recoil, and live in wide open spaces....go for it. My 30-378 only gets use now in the gravel pit, or in the winter where I can pop the occasional coyote sniffing around the edges of the lake. Not hunting, but oportuninity shots off the rail of my deck if I happen to see one. And yes...it does ruin the fur.
I went through load development with a friend on his .300 RUM.
Pros - outstanding ballistics / trajectory for a 30 caliber
Cons - asinine recoil, expect the throat of your barrel to erode quickly.
Way past the point of diminishing returns for a 30 cal IMHO.
FullClip, very very few people can off hand shoot at 300 yards reliabily - few...
Thanks everybody , I have a 300 wsm rem model 700 and to it kicks like a 243 and was just wondering about the 300 Rum...
That's all ?
Depending on how far away that your realistically hunting, I'd say that the addition of a .300 ultra isn't necessary from a practical standpoint... The Ultra will roughly shoot 150-200 fps faster, about 2" flatter @ 300 yards. and maybe 6"-7" flatter @ 500 yards but unless Your shooting game off sandbags I'd say the 500 yard figures are academic... IMO, any game that requires a .30 caliber 180-200 grain bullet inside of 400 yards can be cleanly taken with a .300 WSM where it still easily has over 2,000 lbs of energy with the right bullet... The .300 WSM basically duplicates ( at least ) the smack of the original .300 Winchester Mag, and that round has many medals upon it's uniform... Just My Opinion...
Kiser , 300 yds is about as far as I feel good about shooting with my gun and caliber....
There's honor in accepting a limitation for the sake of the animal... Buying a new gun just because You want it, is nearly as good reason as any but I don't think you "need" it... At 300 yards the .300 WSM will cleanly kill any animal work eating and the very vast majority worth sport hunting...
And to add to that , almost most of the other 30cal non-magnums ( 308, 30-06,etc..)