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300 Blackout - stuck my toes in the water!

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  1. hickok45

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    Call it "Middle Age Crazy," or in MY case, "Old Age Crazy," but I just like what I've read about this cartridge. I've been talked out of getting an upper in 7.62X39 for my AR many times over the years, due to unreliable magazines, etc. I just like these intermediate rounds and thoroughly enjoy the AK immensely. Always thought it would be fun to shoot the same round in an AR.

    Anyway, I just received my Advanced Armament upper last night and am anxious to pop it on my Bushmaster and try out some of these dollar-a-shot rounds this weekend.

    I don't keep up with the AR world that much, but I just don't see how this round is not going to be fairly successful over the next few years, which will assist greatly in making less expensive ammo available. If I'm wrong, I'll just get some reloading dies and roll my own - might do it anyway.

    First thing I did was load up a magazine with the sixty rounds I do have just to confirm that they fit fine in existing AR magazines. They do, of course. Pretty cool.

    I know UMC is supposed to be offering less expensive ammo soon. Has anybody seen any of it available yet anywhere?

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    Not yet. Supposedly, Remington UMC is currently loading the lower cost ($12.99 msrp) supersonic ammo this week and expected distribution to retailers will be following the 2nd week this month.

    I just bought some Gunn ammo from AIM. Prices were $14.95 to $16.95 for 125 gr, 130 gr, (supersonic) and 220 subsonic.

    I think this 300 BLK, is going to be the cat's meow when all gets up and running. There will be a lot more manufacturers getting into it.
     

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    I'm hoping so. I don't have a lot invested in it but I really like the round. It shoots smooth and is perfect for what I like to do w/ my AR.
     
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    Gunn ammo is generally getting great reviews.
     
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    Load up some hickock! Blk out dies and make your own brass!
     
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    No change to the lower, the 7.62x39 runs in a standard 5.56x45 magazine, and just add the appropriate upper?:wow:

    Is this true of just the "Advanced Armament upper" or will any 7.62x39 upper work this way?

    I will anxiously await the YouTube post!
     
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    Not 7.62.39, that's the AK round and the case is too long. It's actually closer to 7.62x35.

    Other than having to replace the barrel to 300BLK, everything else on a standard AR will work with the new 300 BLK round. Same upper and lower, same bcg, same mag.
     
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    The three on the left are 300 Blk's, then the .223, then a 7.62x39. Notice the length of the cases and the bullets.
     

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    I like what I am seeing, but I'm going to be waiting until the price of ammo comes down.
     
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    Cheapest I've found it was $12.95 per 20.
    I did a review on a CMMG 9" suppressed upper. I love it. Ran suppressed, unsuppressed with both high velocity and sub sonics.
    Very accurate at 50 yards. That was as far as I've shot it so far.
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    Wasn't there another .30 caliber cartridge from a blown-out .223, for essentially the same purpose? Was that one just too trade-marked or something?
     
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    I just don't see 300 becoming much more popular than 6.8.


    Its a neat round, with potential, but I just don't see a huge market for it.
     
  13. Cole125

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    Cool. Look forward to seeing a video about it. :cool: 300 blackout looks like a promising round, if ammo comes down in price to $.50 or less a round I'll buy a upper.

    CMMG also sells 300 blackout ammo as well.
     
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    I think if a person is not that attracted to the 7.62X39 round and never HAS been, then this is not necessarily anything that would get his attention; however, if you enjoy these intermediate rounds in the AK and would like about the same thing in an AR, it's hard to argue with, EXCEPT for the price of ammo right now.

    Not much chance of picking up those cases of cheap surplus ammo either, as with the AK round. :)
     
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    I do.

    Well, maybe not a huge market but it has tremendous support from the industry compared to 6.5 and 6.8.

    Don´t forget: with 300BLK, all you need is a new barrel for the AR. Everything else fits. 300BLK is SAAMI spec. Every Ammo producer can make it. In my book, 12$ for factory ammo of what essentially has been a wildcat not so long ago, is outstanding.


    One huge Plus in my book is that you can shoot 220gr subsonics, suppressed if you want and can and your AR will still run in Semi Mode. Or Full Auto for that matter, if you own a M16 Reciever.


    For me, it is the cat´s meow. I feel like it´s getting a lot more support all around then 6.8 or similar ever did, and a lot more people getting into it.

    I for one will buy a 300BLK barrel as soon as they are available (and for a reasonable price at that) in my Country. I can still plink with cheap 55gr. 5.56 but can put the 300BLK upper on the same host and launch subsonics from there.

    I could even build the barrel myself as i´m a machinist, i have an extra T/C Contender barrel in .30-30 that i no longer use. I´m afraid the rate of twist will not be ideal for 300BLK though. I don´t know what ROT it has currently.

    All in all, i think it´s here to stay :supergrin:

    Of course it´s not for everyone and will probably never be, but more so then it´s predecessors.


    ETA: Hickock, you gotta put up a video ASAP... pwetty pwease! :-D
     
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    Oh, and let´s not forget:

    it´s .308 .... FTMFW!!!

    No need to get into new "calibers" as far as reloading goes. You can pretty much choose from an existing line of .308 cal. bullets that are already in production, have been for a long time....

    They are cheaper now then anything 6.5 or 6.8 will ever be, with a lot wider range of weights and bullet styles to choose from et cetera.

    I´ve read of people who´d never in their life considered either 6.8 or 6.5. But since they already reload .308, they´re all over 300BLK.
     
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    I have really enjoyed my 300 BLK upper over the last year. I have started loading the round using NOE's #311 Mold putting out 247gr cast lead boolits at a nice subsonic pace.

    Really makes shooting this round a LOT cheaper as well.
     
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    I disagree on all counts. Its far easier to get 6.5 or 6.8 ammo than 300, there's FAR more industry support for 6.8 currently. With over a dozen companies turning out 6.8 stuff. You can also buy 6.8 firearms in most stores, where as I've yet to see much 300 BLK hit the stores.

    If you want to shoot sub sonic, with a supressor, the 300 has some merit. But thats about it, and thats why I don't ever see it achieving more than second rate, like the 6.8 and 6.5's. They'll never go away, but its never going to go all that far either.
     
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    I just don't see much of a market for it except with suppressor owners. The military will probably will never touch it because it's not 556 or 762. It also doesn't have the legs of the 6.8 or 6.5's to add any type long range capability for hunters of man/critter. It's just another caliber to throw into the already flooded ar market, not that that's a bad thing.
     
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    I think it's great for what it was designed for (as I understand it), an easily suppresed, SBR, CQB rifle that is familiar to most of us and won't require a complete overhual on the users loadout/gear.

    I purchased one because I wanted a .308 and had everything except a barrel for a 5.56 in the parts box and wanted something to kill hogs.
     
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