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3 officers shot, gunman killed at N.J. police HQ

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by TBO, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Ducowti


    Jan 11, 2009
    Whisky Tango Foxtrot, over.

    Glad the good guys won and Godspeed to the wounded officers.

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  2. WT

    WT Millennium Member

    Jan 12, 1999
    The shooter was a Corrections Officer. He was being processed by a female officer. When he was uncuffed he attacked and disarmed her. The other officers were in a nearby room and came to her aid.

    Sad story.
  3. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Jan 26, 2001
    they process prisoners in a jail setting with their side arms on and by themselves?
  4. WT

    WT Millennium Member

    Jan 12, 1999
    Correction: the shooter was a civilian communications officer with the NJDOC.

    (I do not know NJ procedures for processing 'guests' at the stationhouse.)
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2012
  5. blueiron


    Aug 10, 2004
    Somewhere in the Garden State, a utopian fool holding political office is probably railing to make police stations a gun-free zone.
  6. I'd laugh if it wasn't true . . .
  7. Somebody got a little sloppy? :dunno:

    All in all, outcome was acceptable.
  8. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

  9. No retention holster?

    I too am amazed that they apparently allowed weapons inside the booking area. Would love to have some more info on this.
  10. Sharkey


    Nov 21, 2006
    DFW, TX

    If police were unarmed, this could have been avoided. :whistling:

    Yikes. Glad the guy got what he deserved. Kinda strange she was armed during the book in process?
  11. Not entirely clear. For example, our lock boxes share the same common space as the bathroom and the interview room. Small space, too. So, if you are securing your firearms in the lockboxes, you should be locking the suspect in the interview room for a couple of minutes. After one in custody tried a gun grab on me (after I had locked up my handguns - and in behind the back handcuffs), I made sure suspects/arrestees stayed in the interview room.
  12. xmanhockey7


    Dec 6, 2010
    A liberal friend of mine posted this story to show that more guns is not the answer. When I pointed out the fact that it was a gun that stopped the guy he said a taser could have been used instead.
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2012
  13. Deployment Solu

    Deployment Solu Kydex Crafter

    Jul 18, 2007
    Yeah, lock boxes/weapons lockers were OUTSIDE the booking area. No guns in Booking.
    Left once or twice in a hurry on a hot call and almost left the jail with a Folger Adams key snapped into my holster instead of my Glock!!! I said "almost".
  14. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Jan 26, 2001
    toss the keys to your cruiser in with your gun, you cant leave without.
  15. We have lockboxes in the salleyport at the entrance door to the cellblock/processing area and also at the entrance from the report writing room to the cellblock. Policy is to secure your firearm before removing the prisoner from the car to bring them inside or or at the other one before entering the cellblock to help with processing.

    There are signs posted at each door " No firearms, ammunition, OC spray, knives or batons allowed in cellblock". Most supervisors will give some leeway with OC. Guys have been written up for being forgetful about this.
  16. Exactly

    I would always lock my car keys in the lockbox with my gun and put the box key on my belt.
  17. Stevekozak

    Stevekozak Returning video

    Nov 9, 2008
    Sounds like some sloppy procedural work. It is curious that the officer he took the gun from only got shot in the foot. I am guessing in the actual process of the gun grab?
  18. merlynusn


    Nov 16, 2007
    We don't process our prisoners in our offices, only the jail. But we put them into interview rooms. I always shackle them to the floor first, then remove the handcuffs, while bladed away.
  19. This should not have happened.