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3.5 Connectors

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by nksmfamjp, Dec 6, 2012.

  1. nksmfamjp

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    These are made by Ghost, Glock, Lone Wolf, etc.

    What is the function difference between them? Does one have a crisp'r feel?

    Looking to add one to my NY1 trigger...will see some SD and competition use so safety is a must.
     
  2. jdw174

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    I don't have a dog in this hunt....yet, but if I do install a lighter connector I'm going to stay with the Glock OEM.
     


  3. Arc Angel

    Arc Angel Deus Vult!

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    I'm running both Glock factory, and LWD 4.5# connectors in my Glocks. The factory connector is fine; the LWD's I use seem to have a little more spring to them; but, I've been told that they don't last as long; or, at least, some of them don't.

    Quite a few of the guys I shoot with use Ghost connectors. If I should ever replace another connector it'll be either factory, or Ghost - Probably a Ghost Rocket. 'Crisper feel'? No, but some feel less stiff than others.
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2012
  4. PVolk

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    I've only ever use Lone Wolf's 3.5# in my Glocks. But I do plan to try a Zev V4 very soon. One interesting note is that there seems to be somewhat of a break-in for trigger pull. I recently tested mine with a pull gauge.

    Glock 23 w/ LW 3.5# connector = 3.5# pull
    Glock 24 w/ LW 3.5# connector = 5.0# pull

    The major difference in the two is the round count. I have around 3500 rounds through the 23 but only about 600 rounds through the 24. I installed a Zev spring kit in the 24 and it brought the pull down to exactly 3.0#, which feels perfect to me.
     
  5. cciman

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    Trigger feel and connector function is in the realm of subjectivity-- there is no well done study comparing their functions, just lots of anecdotes and testimonials. Overall they are all designed the same way with very minor differences.

    The crucial question is not what it does to trigger pull, (because by themselves, it is very subtle, a;most negligible) but what it does to the trigger reset behavior (how it affects the reset cycle "feel"). That is not so subtle and they differ markedly.

    Ultimately when a zombie is trying to eat your liver, you trigger finger will not be pondering the difference between a 5# and 3# trigger pull.
     
  6. PVolk

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    But when you're hurriedly lining on that small pepper popper 15 yards away, parked right between two no-shoots, it's very nice to not have that extra 2 pounds of pull that could result in pulling the muzzle slightly one way or the other, earning that 5-second penalty.
     
  7. nksmfamjp

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    Saw this on another forum. Is it accurate?

    If so, I'm thinking 6.0 lb trigger spring plus the (0) connector should be about right for me. Still likely not crisp, but not the 10 lb pull I have now. If still NG, should I go ghost rocket or Glock 3.5 connector.

    Also, the creep seems in the touch points. This trigger assy touches off everywhere! Creep will be somewhat unavoidable, I suspect...like my XD.

    Sorry, I compare all triggers to a 1911.

    Well, Wolffe Duty Spring Kit on order first!

    Is the .25 fluff n buff trigger job worth much? Do you only rub with the que tip or do I fire up the rotary tool? Don't really like a rotary on triggers!
     
  8. cciman

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    What is your goal?

    To get a 1911 trigger, get a 1911 - the Glock lives in a different dimensional reality-- you will not approximate it with any safety plunger + striker trigger.

    With enough trigger control, and grip modification, you should be able to overcome the stock vs. the connector difference and not pull your shots to the left, or jerk teh trigger. Learn to use the short reset Glock tactical trigger function (best in the market) on the followup shot- your times should be very fast, and the trigger control will be better.
     
  9. nksmfamjp

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    Mostly to reduce weight. Ideally, I think the initial pull would be 3-4 lbs. break would be 5-6 lbs.
     
  10. sciolist

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    I like the feel of the LWD a bit more than the OEM, but I have broken one LWD while shooting. Because it lacks the cut-outs, the OEM is more durable.

    Adjusting the bend angle is less risky with the OEM.

    99.99% of my pistol shooting is with production Glock trigger parts, so I'm not trying to reproduce a 1911, etc. trigger in my Glocks, thank god. Glock triggers blow in comparison to good triggers. Learning to shoot one well is a matter of mastering inferior mechanics - not enhancing them to equal those of a good trigger.

    For a production match Glock, just lightening the trigger is the main thing. An after-travel stop helps, but you have to shoot from reset and learn to manage the trigger.

    For a carry gun, a worn-in OEM trigger works fine. I might add an OEM 3.5, but that’s it.
     
  11. nksmfamjp

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    Sorry for the 1911 reference. I don't need a 1911 trigger to shoot. I have S&W revolvers, a Kahr and an XD. I shoot them well enough.

    I just want to get an idea what people are doing related to their triggers, the effect and why they chose what they chose.
     
  12. They don't make your trigger crisper, per say. They change the angle at that your trigger bar moves down from your sear, lessening the force to pull the trigger to the sear release point. It just lowers your trigger weight, slightly.

    That being said, I prefer the ghost rocket connector, which has the 3.5# angle, with an over-travel stop, that stops your trigger bar from moving and further to the rear, once your striker is released. This reduces you jerking the gun around after you crack the shot, and helps accuracy. In thoery, anyway, and it does greatly improve the feel of the trigger reset.

    Also, a well done $.25 trigger job to it, and it'll have a very sweet trigger, that appears and functions factory stock.