Looks effective enough to me, I wonder if he was using heavy-for-caliber bullets? Next time I go hiking in Montana, I'll know what to pack. PS - alfred10 if that is you in the video, please speak up! [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDCUBraACBw&feature=fvwrel"].223 vs. Bear - YouTube[/ame] Wanna kill these ads? We can help!