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2012: What have you done this week to prepare?

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by G29Reload, Dec 30, 2011.

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  1. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA CLM

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    With most things, silencers are about trade offs.
    1. $$$
    2. how quiet
    3. use with more than one cartridge.
    4. maintenance

    Based on what I have read....
    Degrote
    1. $$$=ok
    2. how quiet=ok, but there are better
    3. use with more than one cartridge.= pretty good.
    4. maintenance=not good for an all day range session, but great for one box of 22LR and then a box of 9mm.
     
  2. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA CLM

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    All I have right now are indoor ranges with other people shooting.

    I have access to a government range, but....that is a much longer story.
     

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  3. emt1581

    emt1581 Curious Member

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    What's interesting about the Nano is that there are ZERO reviews on youtube for this thing! Just the ones DeGroat himself put up a year and two ago...

    I've got other prep-priorities right now but another suppressor is definitely on the list for the future...

    -Emt1581
     
  4. SRT76

    SRT76

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    Been 3 months since last post.

    Purchased an AK. Very basic Polish model.
    Bought a Rem 870 of an LEO buddy. Night sites, mag extender, sling and side saddle.
    Remodeled our dining room into a walk in pantry. HUGE increase to our food storage ability. Been slowly filling it up as we find good deals.
    Layered in some ammo and new mags.
    Still debt free for over a year and savings still increasing.
    Got promoted so increased 401k the amount of my raise.
     
  5. jarubla

    jarubla Dos Pistolas

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    Been reading a lot on gardening and foraging. Tons of books out there on amazon dot com

    Also been reading a LOT on survivalblog dot com

    Bought the kids new coats and shoes

    Bought some more boolits

    Finally, bought some barter items (single serve coffee, coughdrops, etc) for trading if we get to be anything like Greece.

    -Jay
     
  6. LongGun1

    LongGun1 StraightShooter


    Your Norrell/Ruger reminds me of my PAI/Ruger....here seen in recoil...

    [​IMG]





    Yes....one reason I like the Abraxis & Osprey!




    Good comparison shot...


    Nice zombie squirrel setup!




    Does an IMI Uzi count?

    The DBAL & NVD is a real hoot to shoot at night!

    I have a pair of DBAL-A2 on the integral Charger SBRs....

    [​IMG]

    ..plan on getting more in the future!
     
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  7. LongGun1

    LongGun1 StraightShooter

    Yes, the Nano is compact...

    ..but I will pass on 148.2 db WET using 158 gr subsonics! :shocked:

    Unsuppressed is 159.3 db

    Lots of wait time & expense for only 11.1 db of suppression! :whistling:


    Though my .40 Osprey is much larger.. http://www.silencerco.com/?section=Products&page=Osprey&vid=Osprey-Assembly

    ..it features user changeable mounts, is also multi-caliber, the rectangular profile is OEM iron sight & bottom mount light/laser friendly, & other innovative features...

    ..but also has really respectable 9mm & .40 ear safe sound suppression when DRY numbers...!

    .40 Osprey
    161db unsuppressed with .40
    127db w/40
    Dry 34 db suppression with 180 gr .40
    160 db unsuppressed with 9mm
    124.9db w/9mm
    Dry 35.1 db suppression with 147 gr 9mm

    9mm Osprey
    160db unsuppressed
    124.9db w/9mm
    Dry 35.1 db suppression with 147 gr 9mm

    Fantastic numbers with 9mm out of a .40 suppressor...IMO!
    And even better numbers can be achieved wet!




    But....If going compact & wet in 9mm..

    ..the AWC Abraxis is & will continue to be my choice!
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2012
  8. emt1581

    emt1581 Curious Member

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    Wet, my Outback II is pretty quiet...like bolt racking quiet. However, dry it is still softer than unsuppressed.

    Personally, for the purposes of functionality (offensive/defensive), I would not be opposed to using wipes in order to avoid having to spray the can before using it.

    But I have not researched suppressor technology in a few years and right now, I'm good with weaponry and focusing on other areas of S&P. Areas covered so far this year have been armor, blades, transportation, etc.

    I think I've bought my last gun/weapon for a while. My dealer is probably thinking I'm dead...

    -Emt1581
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2012
  9. quake

    quake Millennium Member

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    Ok, well you just suck.






    :cool:
     
  10. quake

    quake Millennium Member

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    Fwiw, a 'wet' suppressor can be stored charged & ready for use. I use standard white lithium grease, and just charge the suppressor when done using it. Then when I want to use it, I can just attach it and it's at its optimum state with no hassle or set-up required.

    For range-session use, to avoid the hassle of detaching-charging-reattaching, I simply set a bucket of water on or by the shooting bench and just dunk the attached suppressor in there every time the slide locks back on an empty magazine. No detaching necessary, and just a lot less hassle when putting a large number of rounds thru it at one sitting.
     
  11. runcible68

    runcible68

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    My girlfriend and I reorganized a large closet in our home into a pantry/supply closet. Now we call it "The Bunker." When we counted all the stuff we had, we've got at least 10 days worth of water (And a water purification system of filters and tablets) and three weeks worth of food. After we up the water supply to 14 days, I'll pretty happy with what we've got for our situation. And most of the foodstuffs are what we normally eat anyway. With the emergency ration bars and MRE's we probably actually have 4 weeks of food.

    And I've got quite a few bullets and TP!
     
  12. emt1581

    emt1581 Curious Member

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    I use CLP.

    Never heard of white lithium grease. Can I use that and let it sit for months?

    Never detach mine to "charge" it either. Never tried just plain old water.

    Thanks

    -Emt1581
     
  13. LongGun1

    LongGun1 StraightShooter


    Over the years...I get really into weapons systems...then cool off..

    ..but with the more recent innovations in suppressor technology

    .. & new models I think it is a good time to be back "in"! :supergrin:


    The Outback II (now IID) is still a great can..

    ..but after research into my needs...(5.7 being a major consideration)

    ...the Silencerco Sparrow came out on top... http://www.silencerco.com/?section=Products&page=Sparrow

    .. multi-caliber (.22 LR, .17 HMR, .22 Mag, .22 WMR & 5.7×28 FNH), features user disassembly, full auto rated, & 41 db of suppression...dry, stainless steel but only 6.5 oz.
     
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  14. emt1581

    emt1581 Curious Member

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    Seems like the only area the OBII wins is in weight. The biggest PITA is the fact that is can't be taken apart to clean.

    It works just fine for .22lr. The next can I get will be for the 9mm. No question about it.

    Now let's stop this convo before you make me broke and my wife pissed.

    -Emt1581
     
  15. LongGun1

    LongGun1 StraightShooter



    :tongueout: :rofl: :supergrin:
     
  16. quake

    quake Millennium Member

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    White lithium grease comes in a tube, like an oversized toothpaste tube; usually found in auto parts stores, Lowe's, etc.
    [​IMG]


    They do make an aerosol version that I tried once, but never again as its propellant was flammable. Made for an interesting sound & light show when I tried it. (I guess you could use the aerosol version for storage use, if you gave it enough time to air out the propellant gasses before using.)

    You do have to use a charger to use lithium grease or similar. It's like a modified syringe that has a long nozzle, and the grease (or whatever coolant) is ejected out the sides of the nozzle rather than the end like a needle; which gets the grease out sideways, into the baffles.

    Another very good coolant is wire-pulling lube, usually found at electrical supply houses, but can also be had at Lowe's. But it's more liquid-y than the lithium grease, and I don't trust it to stay in place (and out of the bullet's path) if left in there to set up a long while.

    Never used break-free in the suppressors; I'll check into that.
     
  17. LongGun1

    LongGun1 StraightShooter



    Trust me...

    ..y'all would not be the first! :tongueout: :rofl: :supergrin:


    As far as 9mm silencers..

    ..take a look at the AAC Ti-rant & the Silencerco 9mm Osprey...

    ..really sweet cans! :cool:
     
  18. emt1581

    emt1581 Curious Member

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    Before I go off the deep end yet again...will either of these work on Glocks as well as Berettas, Sigs, H&K's, etc....with just threading or are they finicky on which guns they like?

    Thanks

    -Emt1581
     
  19. LongGun1

    LongGun1 StraightShooter


    White Lithium is messy....IME

    ...my favorites are clear wire pulling gel (inexpensive & water soluble) ..

    ...or plain ole water...


    That being said..

    ..I am gravitating to suppressors with great dry numbers..

    There are even .45 ACP suppressors running dry boasting good numbers available now!

    From Silencerco website....the 45 Osprey is 132.5 dB dry/123 dB wet
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2012
  20. LongGun1

    LongGun1 StraightShooter

    I am not aware of any cycling issues with the Osprey..

    A little video overview of the 9mm Osprey
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8QdUHi9_A0&feature=related"]Silencerco Osprey 9mm Suppressor - YouTube[/ame]

    More on both...

    Silencerco Osprey
    http://www.silencerco.com/?section=Products&page=Osprey

    AAC Ti-Rant
    http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=640


    Another Osprey video
    [ame="http://vimeo.com/10515210"]Silencerco Osprey 9 & Osprey 45 suppressors on Vimeo[/ame]

    Ti-Rant video
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsYf11Hgqkk"]Travis shooting the AAC 9mm Ti-Rant - YouTube[/ame]
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2012
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