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1st Shooting by an Air Marshal

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by isuzu, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. isuzu

    isuzu

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    Just saw the news, and a man was shot by US Air Marshalls after he disembarked from American Airlines flight 924 from Medellin, Colombia at Miami Int'l and boarded a plane bound for Orlando, FL.

    The man shouted that he had a bomb before boarding the plan. He then ran and reached at his backpack. The Air Marshalls didn't take any chances and shot him. This is the first shooting of involving US Air Marshalls since 9/11.

    The female companion told authorities that he had bipolar disorder and had not taken his medication.

    My opinion:

    This could have been avoided if:

    1. The victim took his medication or the companion was diligent enough to see if the he took his medication;

    2. He should have declared at check-in that he had a disorder so they would have been placed in an area of the plane where the victim could relax, would not get agitated or stressed, or an airline nurse would have accompanied them on the flight. The airline would have notified in advance US Marshalls and airport security that they had a passenger on board with a mental disorder.
     
  2. bikethief

    bikethief itchy trigger

    Saw this on MSN news also. I guess they didn't have any other options. Haaay...post-9/11 praning stress.
     


  3. bikethief

    bikethief itchy trigger

    On a more interesting note, the article mentions that air marshals are trained to shoot to kill and they get the best handgun training among all LE departments. What do you think they are issued? Glocks? Sigs?
     
  4. jerrytrini

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    Sig 226 I believe is the standard issue of these guys and gals. They are trained to make head shots 95% of the time. I was in a local match when I noticed that one of the shooters (Pinoy) was always going for the head shot. Curiosly, I approached him and asked why, he said that's how AMs are trained. I am unqualified to be an AM because the minute my back hits a soft comfortable backrest, I am out like a light.
     
  5. Allegra

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    A b-shooter in IPSC can pass the FAM drill quite easily
    My vote goes to the LAPD swat
    Maybe , Jerry can confirm
     
  6. isuzu

    isuzu

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    Yup! They are issued Sig P226s. Same with the US Secret Service. IMHO, Sigs have the sweetest double action in a pistol so far.
     
  7. Allegra

    Allegra

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    Better than an LDA?
    I used to have the 228, kaso didnt like it
     
  8. JohnJak

    JohnJak sadly spent

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  9. Allegra

    Allegra

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    I've only tried most of the P series
    Have to admit I liked the p220
     
  10. darwin25

    darwin25 Make your move

    Me too. I think the P220 is the best DA .45 cal pistol out there. Definitely one of my must have guns.
     
  11. Alexii

    Alexii Janeway Forever

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    Yup. This is what I read too. The same article said that the required drill to be a FAM is 1.5 second draw and a spinal cord (about the diameter of the pinkie finger) hit at a certain distance (not sure how many feet).

    These guys are probably among the most highly trained in the use of handguns.
     
  12. Allegra

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    I dont have a copy of the drill pero I think you can do a search on that
    I dont remember a required spinal cord hit pero my headshots and mag changes etc
    Dun sa kabilang glock forum may FAM and the civilian trainers there have even lowered the times on their FAM drills
    I bet the BOGS team can ace it :)
     
  13. PMMA97

    PMMA97 MNSAmessdetail

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    I have a classmate in the Philippine Coast Guard tapped to be trained as a local air marshall. In our last communication about 3 months ago he informed me he was issued a .357 pistol but did not mention the make.
     
  14. Once I was on an Air Vietnam plane about ready to take off and as I was sitting there it occurred to me that I had left my ticket with a company person at the foot of the stairs; so I jumped up and started moving fast towards the door, which was near the cockpit. Suddenly I see the air crew running up to me shouting "Sir! Why are you walking fast to the front of the plane ?" . They had that "This could be it" look. Stupid me. I explained the situation, while they took their positions around me. Nothing bad happened but
    I learned not to walk fast towards the cockpit in an airplane.
     
  15. asintaderoche

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    i did heard that news and i was just as fresh having my trip to phil and back to u.s.. the t.s.a. is really serious on their job. the lines on boarding a plane is a pain in the neck. in japan they were using x-rays for human, putsa sa pinas binubulatlat yung mga bag random, hehehehehehe umangat yagbols ko dito dahil dami ako pasalubong na dvd pinay xxx. bomba din yun di ba.....
     
  16. Sir, oo nga, delikado yun..other than "bomba" yung xxx :) baka dumugin ka pa ng mga tiga mtrcb. kasi, kinukolekta nila lalo na yung magagandang xxx. yung mga panget na kopya, yun ang sinusunog nila.:)
     
  17. jasonub

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    and one of the most accurate out there in terms of service pistols