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1911 trigger pull weight for a carry gun?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by allen.m, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. allen.m

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    I am in process of getting a special order ed brown 1911. I was talking to some friends, telling them i was going to get the trigger around 3 1/2 to 4 pound trigger. One friend thinks this is unsafe for a carry gun. What are yall's opinions on this? what weight do y'all think is safe? and why would 3 1/2 to 4 be unsafe?
     
  2. Ascout

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    I can think of two possible reasons:

    1. Low trigger weight when cocked and locked in a high stress situation where you might fire when you didn't intend once safety is released.

    2. How this setting might be used against you in court if you ever have to use it in anger.
     


  3. Quack

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    Whatever the factory sets or specs the trigger at.
    my KC is ~3.5# and my Guardian is 3.75#'s
    my EMP is 4#
     
  4. Shipwreck-The-Sequel

    Shipwreck-The-Sequel Beretta 92 Nut!

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    I have two 1911s - my Brown's trigger has an average pull of 3lb 12.6oz, and my custom shop Springfield has an average pull of 4lb 5.6oz.

    To me, the Brown feels too light for a carry gun. I'm not comfortable with the trigger. It is awesome for range use, but too light for a carry gun FOR ME (others may disagree).

    My Springer feels just right. If I ever order another Brown for carry, I'd try to get it around the weight of the Springfield.
     
  5. Shipwreck-The-Sequel

    Shipwreck-The-Sequel Beretta 92 Nut!

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    I didn't have a Gauge until recently, but my Brown's trigger was actually a little heavier. But I sent the gun in to be re-beadblasted. When I got it back, I noticed that the trigger was a tiny bit lighter than what it was originally.
     
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  6. Most people that I know (me too) have the trigger set to 4-4.5 lbs for a carry gun.YMMV.tom.
     
  7. Nickpisp

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    That's what I prefer also.
     
  8. allen.m

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    Ok those are 2 possible reasons. But in a high stress situation i don't think the difference between 3 1/2 and 7 pound trigger is going to make a difference with all the adrenalin pumping one would just have to rely on what training one might have. But i don't know for sure as I have never been in one of those "real life" situations and hope never to be.

    As for using a gun in anger, that would never happen with me. I would hope that anyone that has that kind of anger issues would not be carrying a gun although i am sure they're out there.


     
  9. GJ1981

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    The firearm is only as safe as the person handling it. There is no magic number, IMO.

    For me, my CCW 1911's are around 4-4.5lbs.
     
  10. Hokie1911

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    What they said. :thumbsup:
     
  11. allen.m

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    I totally agree just curious as to what others thoughts were.

     
  12. nastytrigger

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    I do like a light trigger, but my carry trigger pulls are no lighter than 4#. I still remember shooting my friends Ruger MkIII pistol. His trigger was a little over two pounds. Just barely put your finger on it and BOOM. The joke was that a breeze would set it off :wow:.
     
  13. Quack

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    ask hokie and knedrgr about shooting 2 of my gun's. one with a 2# trigger and the other with a 2.5# trigger. :whistling:
     
  14. Hokie1911

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    Quack's Trophy Match was like BANG BANG when I meant for it to go BANG. :wow:
     
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  15. Quack

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    and yes, when i sold it, i brought the trigger back up to 4#
     
  16. nastytrigger

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    Yup. My friend challenged me to a 50yd plate contest with his hair trigger. Ten shots. He was 10 for 10. I think I was 6 for 10. I tried to coach myself: okay, sight alignment, press, BANG. Wait! I wasn't ready to shoot! :steamed:
     
  17. Ascout

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    "In anger" is an expression for one of serious intent, not an anger management course. It means a situation where you are using a "weapon" for it's intended purpose in a life threatening situation, such as war or self-defense, as opposed to paper-punching bullseyes.
     
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  18. allen.m

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    I am sorry i thought you meant "anger" an emotion related to one's perception of having been offended or wronged and a tendency to undo that wrong doing by retaliation. I didn't mean to misinterpret you. thanks for clearing that up.


     
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  19. Ruggles

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    3.5lbs - 4.5lbs depending on the gun I am carrying. I can not imagine in a court where 1/2 to 1/3 lb difference in trigger pull would matter to a juror. Most people (including me) can not pick up a 1911 and really feel the difference in a 1/2 llb of trigger pull. Certainly not enough to testify in a court of law where that would make a difference in a shooting.

    Now going down to some crazy 1.5lb competition trigger pull might not be the best ideal. :tongueout: