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1911 do's and don't?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by bobbss, Jan 5, 2013.


  1. bobbss

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    I just picked up my new TRP yesterday,which is my first 1911.I was looking at the manual,and it says to never release the slide on an empty chamber,which I've already done a several times.I hope that their not so fragile that I would of hurt something already.I'm more worried about the don't than the do's,but is there anything else I should know,like is it ok to dry fire?Thanks!
     

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    Bob I've been reading/studying a book called "The Colt .45 Automatic, A Shop Manual" by Jerry Kuhnhausen.

    At the beginning of the book he has 18 rules.

    Rule # 12 is: LIMIT .45 auto dry firing-no matter who says it's O.K.

    I've adopted that rule as one of my own.
     

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    Don't make a habit out of dropping the slide onto an empty chamber on any gun and not just M1911. However, if the gun; any gun, were to break after a few slide drops then it's the gun is the problem. No decent pistol should be that fragile.
     
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    This I agree with. No sense in beating a gun to death, but a few doesn't hurt anything. And if you think they don't drop the slide on an empty chamber MANY times when they are building a gun, you are wrong.
    This, I totally disagree with. On a rimfire gun, I will agree. But not on a centerfire.
     
  5. sawgrass

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    You kinda been that way today...:whistling::hugs:

    Why do you think he says that?
    I've only heard it regarding rimfires previously.

    Is there something about a 1911 that would make him print that?

    A defensive instructor gave me homework of sitting and dry firing my Glock to practice trigger take up/reset.
     
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    Get some snap caps if people are that worried about dry firing.
     
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    Congrats on the fine 1911 :)

    I agree doing it a number of times is no biggie, doing it over and over is not some thing I would do. I easy my close on my 1911s.
     
  9. bobbss

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    Thanks,and thanks to everyone for the info.
     
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    If you drop the slide on an empty chamber without the trigger pulled the sear is engaged which means it basically bounces off the engagement surfaces of the hammer. If you previously had a really nice trigger job it batters that all to hell.

    If your hammer hooks have been filed down enough, as in a super light match trigger pull, it can cause the hammer to follow and hopefully get caught on the hooks.
     
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    A few times shouldn't be an issue, but it's just a bad habit. I don't do it to any of my autos.
     
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    The biggest "don't" about buying a 1911 is spending big bucks on one, posting multiple times how great it is, and then selling it a year later... after only putting 300 rounds through it. :upeyes: :upeyes:
     
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    Like fnfalman says, get some snap caps. Then, practice all you want.
     
  14. sawgrass

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    My 1911's don't have trigger take up. No benefit.
     
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    Then how do you dry fire your 1911? Besides, didn't you say your instructor told you to dry fire your Glock?
     
  16. bobbss

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    I don't see me doing that,the gun would really have to suck.I never sell guns,I don't have enough of them now.lol!If I start wanting something new I just wait till I can buy it.
     
  17. sawgrass

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    I dry fire my 1911's once or twice when purchasing after asking permission. I dry fire them after cleaning once or twice to make sure that I put them back together properly.

    I sit and dry fire my Glocks for practice because for a brief time I had a slight pull. The instructor had me sit and practice and practice and practice taking up the the trigger between shots so that I stayed on target. It got rid of the pull.

    I don't think we have a definitive answer as to whether or not it harms a 1911 to dry fire it. The book that I'm reading says to LIMIT the amt. of dry firing with a 1911.
    I don't really know why. I've heard my whole life that it might peen the chamber face or break the firing pin on a rimfire.
     
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    Definitive answer (Hilton Yam of 10-8 Consulting):

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    More definitive answers here:

    http://www.10-8consulting.com/article_page.php?articleID=13
     
  19. sawgrass

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    So I think that proves fnfalman's point. If anyone wants to do it and has hesitation use snap caps.

    One author says no problem another author says limit it.

    Nothing different than any other day on the internet.

    For me personally, I don't know enough to be sure so I would rather err on the side of caution.

    Markel I saved that whole thing and intend to print it.
    There is a lot of useful information there.
    Thanks for sharing it.

    I will add that after nearly 30 years of being a mechanic it's best to gather as much information as you can and make up your own mind based upon your own experiences.
     
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    Great info Sawgrass,.......I completely agree. SnapCaps are
    a whole lot of cheap insurance! :cool: