Just looking for some input. I have been working up 180grn loads. Montana Gold fmj bullets, WLP primer, PMC and Win. cases. I worked all the way up to 11.4 grns of BlueDot with no excessive pressure signs, only the slightest primer smearing(firing pin), which seems to be present with all loads. The D.Taps I tried show alot more pressure(smileys and bellys). I think 11grns does what I want to do, but even this is above all published load data I have found! Ultimately this load will be used for hunting deer and black bear (possibly with a 180XTP). Any Thoughts? Wanna kill these ads? We can help!