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Discussion in 'GATE Self-Defense Forum' started by walkin' trails, Aug 15, 2010.

  1. walkin' trails

    walkin' trails

    Apr 24, 2005

    Are there any real-world differences between the 147 grn Hydra Shok and the 147 Ranger?

    I'm getting tempted to acquire a new Gen 4 G19. My employer still authorizes personally owned 9 mms, but mandates the above two rounds for duty. I got away from 9s in 1999 and have been carrying 40s and 45s ever since. I previously worked for an agency that issued +P+s (9BPLE, 115 Win, and 124 HS) years ago before jumping on the 40-bandwagon itself. I would prefer one of those or the Win 127 Ranger because of their track record, but for now have to work within policy. I like the 40s and 45s, but will admit that I am probably faster and shoot tighter groups with 9 mm (even with the 147s). Plus, I am three years away from being eligible to retire and whenever I go, I'll have to buy my own ammo.
  2. Mas Ayoob

    Mas Ayoob KoolAidAntidote Moderator

    Nov 6, 2005
    Of the two, I would definitely go with the Ranger-T JHP. When the 147 grain Hydra-Shok was more popular than it is now, there were several reports of it failing to expand. I'm getting field reports of much better results with the Ranger-T, and with Federal's own HST.


  3. walkin' trails

    walkin' trails

    Apr 24, 2005
    Thanks for the info. I'd read that the Rangers were very reliable expanders, but wondered how the 147s did in general. That said, I still adhear to the practice that shot placement is the key.