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12 gauge slugs.... Do they really over-penetrate?

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Inebriated, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. Inebriated

    Inebriated

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    Well that's what I always thought. But in TWO tnoutdoors9 videos, that seems to be... questionable? (videos are at the bottom in order of reference)

    The first video is of a Winchester 2-3/4" 1oz slug. It makes a MEAN permanent cavity, but it broke up into 3 pieces. One piece made it 12", and the other two made it 10".

    The second video is of a Remington 3" 1oz slug. This one split into three pieces as well, one going 9", another going 9.5", and the last going 12.5".

    Now reference the Remington 2-3/4" 00 Buck video, he got pellets going 14", 15", and 15.5" deep. And just for reference, his 9mm Hornady Critical Duty test sent a 135 grain projectile 16.75" and a test with a .45 ACP 230 grain HST put up 13.75" of penetration. Now, obviously this isn't actual game, and there is no bone or skin to affect the performance, but compared to all his other testing videos, 12.5" is actually quite shallow. So what do you guys think? Are these results consistent with those of real-world hunting applications? Do you think that the over-penetration thing is less reality than myth, or is the ballistics "media" a poor representation of how slugs really act? Just wanted to get some other peoples' opinions on this, especially if you've hunted with slugs before.

    Winchester 2-3/4" slug (space added between "you" and "tube" so it doesn't embed and make this post unnecessarily long)
    http://www.yout ube.com/watch?v=7HuVkXLreWE
    Remington 3" slug
    http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=5oDG2i6rwjU&feature=relmfu
    Remington 2-3/4" 00
    http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=dbFLY9OIqPA&feature=relmfu
    Hornady 9mm Critical Duty
    http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=wJZFZFmBKa0
    Federal HST .45
    http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=iWW2Y-IZpyE[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW2Y-IZpyE"][/ame]
     
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  2. dkf

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    Depends on what type of slugs you use. Those hollow base riflrd slugs basically turn inside out and have a large amount of frontal area. You will get different results from say a saboted hunting slug.
     

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  3. Inebriated

    Inebriated

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    Of course, but my question is in regards to the cheaper slugs like in the video, as opposed to sabot's, or brennekes/hard cast. I am just curious to hear from people who've shot game with them, and see if they do regularly penetrate about that far, and break up, or if that ballistics "media" is a poor representative of real conditions.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2012
  4. dkf

    dkf

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    In a hunting application you will be further away from the game than he is to the gel by a considerable margin. This velocity drop will help to decrease expansion and increase penetration. For deer these rifled slugs will work well within reasonable distances.
     
  5. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

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    12 guage slugs can take out an engine block if that helps answer your question simply.
     
  6. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

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    Awesome!