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10mm winchester 175gr silvertips

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Glock 29, Dec 29, 2009.


  1. Glock 29

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    was wondering if this is a good sd brand of ammo?
    i have a glock29 and in the market for some sd ammo and came across this stuff.
    please give me your input on this stuff and any other brand that might be as good or better thanks
     

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  2. glocksterr

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    if you want the real Ten i would try corbon, buffalo bore, ect,..
     

  3. Kegs

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    If you want the real 10 buy a real barrel (aftermarket) and handload. Check the 10mm reloading forum for results. :cool:
     
  4. cowboywannabe

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    you savvy?

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    Win STHP are a good mid power 10mm load. Cor-Bon makes good mid power loadings also but are expensive.

    Buffalo Bore is full power but expensive. Georgia Arms is mid power and reasonably priced.

    Double Tap makes reasonably price full power 10mm loads.
     
  5. Tombstone

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    Winchester Sliver Tips work just fine in mine G20 and are quite accurate.
     
  6. noway

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    And easy to shoot. I don't they would make that big of difference in a SD shooting to be overly concern with. Their's also too distinct packages for this round the older boxes are suppose to be slightly faster.
     
  7. glock20c10mm

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    I don't like the 10mm 175gr Silvertip load. Tested them along side some other bullet designs (XTPs and Gold Dots) and the Silvertips were the only ones that didn't expand reliably in various forms of media. Only backyard testing, but the XTPs and GDs didn't take issue, where the Silvertips did. Simply can't trust them, let alone when my life is on the line.
     
  8. cowboywannabe

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    you savvy?

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    what medium did you use?

    i used capped plastic jugs filled with water....the thickness of the plastic was a bit more than the stadard one gallon milk jug type but plastic none the less......from 15~ feet i got good expansion, good penetration, and good retained weight from the STHP.

    dont know what else to say except the ones i tried worked well in my own back yard testing... ><img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff256/JerryS357/101_0005.jpg" border="0" alt="10mm test slugs"></a>[​IMG]


    somewhere in the 10mm section i posted what the recovered weights and diameters were....
     
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  9. glock20c10mm

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    Water filled jugs, wet newspaper, mud, wet sand, wood in front of water jugs...

    And except in the water filled jugs and mud, the Silvertips wouldn't always expand, where the XTPs and GDs did in all test mediums, AND, I fired multiple rounds of each into everything.

    You know what's really scary.....the Double Tap 155gr Gold Dots @ 1400fps that I like so much, expand to .88" in bone dry super hard pack dirt in less than two inches penetration!:shocked: Those things are wicked!
     
  10. Ak.Hiker

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    I alway keep several boxes of 175 grain Winchester Silvertip in my ammo box. Winchester has had this load on the market for many years. I do not think Winchester would be able to market the 175 grain Silvertip for as long as they have if it did not get the job done. They have a similar load in the 41 Magnum that has a good reputation. Both of these Silvertip loads have been used on Deer and other medium sized game with good results. I would carry it for SD or protection from medium sized animals or viscious dogs with no worry.
     
  11. stengun

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    Howdy glock20c10mm,

    :shocked:

    I carry Win ST in my G20. I have been using Win ST in 10mm since the mid/late 80's. I have used them in combat, and for hunting and they are the best SD/HD/hunting round on the market.

    Here's a pic..............

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    This is a Win 175gr ST. It expanded to 1.02" at the widest point and penetrated over 17".

    9mm round next to it only expanded to about .62" and penetrated about 9" in the same test media.

    Some of the DT and Buffalo loads or way overpressure and do not live up to the hype or velocity claims.

    For me, I will stick will a proven load, the Win 175gr ST.

    Paul
     
  12. glock20c10mm

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    They are not overpressure. Who fed you that nonsense?

    Hey, if you think they work great, more power to ya. I tested other bullet designs along side them, and the Silvertips were the lowest performers, period. I have no interest in arguing it, simply posting my own observations.

    Good Shooting,
    Craig
     
  13. Fisher 21

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    The only squib I've ever had was a winch. silver tip. Packed the rest away after that.

    Corbon or DT for me.
     
  14. AWESOMO 4000

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    If I remember correctly, the FBI started looking at different calibers/cartridges (i.e., the .40 S&W) after a few shootings with the 10mm were less than impressive. Over-penetration was the common thread, and the load they settled on matched the 185gr .45 load...which lead to the development of the .40.
     
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    There is absolutely no truth to anything written in this paragraph.
     
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    Howdy glock20c10mm,

    Overpressure? Look at the primers. No doubt they are overpressure.

    I've tested other bullets too. In my backyard and on the battlefield. I'll stick with the SilverTips.

    Paul
     
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    Howdy AWESOMO,

    You do not remember correctly.

    The only problem the FBI had with the S&W 1006/1076 and 10mm round was with their agents.

    +95% of the FBI agents were not/are not gun people.

    Plus most of the FBI agents are small to medium framed men and add in the women and the S&W pistol was too big and the full power 10mm round, the Win ST had too much recoil for them to handle the pistol.

    So the FBI switched to the 10mm "lite" load.

    The agents continued to complain about the size and weight of the S&W pistol.

    This all lead to the .40S&W round and pistols being made.

    Paul
     
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    Ah, the emergence of another "internet myth"...

    Remember folks, you saw it here first!
     
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    http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi_10mm_notes.pdf
     
  20. fredj338

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    The WinSTHP is a real 10. The 175grSTHP does 1250fps+ from my Delta or 1006. Unless you buy boutique ammo from DT or BB, it's a good load, expands well & drives deep enough.
    THis is the correct answer. The S&W is a huge pistol for anyone w/ less than average handsize not to mention the weight for CC, which is what all FBI do. If the G29 had been around then, maybe they would still be carrying the 10mm.
     
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