10mm on the rise!!

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by cablecutter, Dec 29, 2011.


  1. You will need a KKM conversion barrel, and the 21 is good to go, running 10MM. There are those that feel just taking a 10MM barrel in is fine, but not me. The barrel hood is slightly different dimensions, and although will fit, it's not a proper fit. Yes all that is needed after a conversion barrel is a G20 magazine.
     

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  2. Bullman

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    Mine served me well while I carried it. I would have been well served by carrying a 686 too. I always thought I was a gun guy, but I guess I was mistaken. Wouldn't be the first time.
     

  3. Witness is a decent inexpensive 10mm

    They did/do have some problems with the newer models, wonder finish cracking.

    http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/10mm-Witness-Wonderfinish-t81791.html

    http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Eaa-Witness-Compact-Cr-t99696.html

    And a jamming problem on this one

    http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EAA-Witness-jams-t109641.html

    A feeding problem

    http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EAA-Compact-10mm-Metal-t98842.html
     
  4. I do. Great trigger, very accurate.
    Unless I ram the mags in they occasionally drop out.

    Kevin
     
  5. I have a 10mm Witness and I shot it alot, I started reloading 10mm to support it. I have loaded some kinda hot rounds, but haven't really pushed it and its held up well. Mags were hard to get for a while, but I have plenty now. I've only carried it a little, but thats because I'm still working on the kydex holster I made for it. I think more 10mm would be on the market if they were a good design or offered something desirable without the high price. I have a G20 and the Witness, both were reasonably priced, I don't see why more 1911s aren't offered in 10mm at a reasonable price, the DE is nice just over priced.
     
  6. Bullman

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    You know, I have been a 10mm fan for some time now, interest rises and falls with the times. I would think it would be more popular since it gives semi auto pistol shooters a magnum level cartridge to play with. The ammo industry has hobbled the round by not loading it to potential so the only real way to explore it's potential is to handload, or buy off the internet from a company considered to be "boutique".

    Then there are the companies who "try" to come up with new pistols. Vltor has been promising us the latest version of the Bren Ten. You know they had to sink a ton of money into R&D and also purchasing the rights to the name, yet where is the pistol? Some of the die hard fans have been strung along so much with that one I don't know that they would buy one now if it did hit the market. Times have changed too, about the only machined metal pistol that has a strong market is the 1911, most everyone else who is mainstream big in the market is polymer now. Is an expensive machined metal frame pistol going to be viable in todays market of inexpensive polymer wonder pistols?

    I am a fanboy, but I just don't see my favorite caliber growing enough to become a major blip in the gun market.
     
  7. carbuncle

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    Thanks for the feedback on the Witness 10mm, sounds like one might need to get added to my list...
     
  8. It appears that you should avoid the newer rounded slides with the wonder finish and all the compacts, reading up on it the compact EAA witnesses have way to much hit and miss reliability which the full size guns don't.

    Also in one of the links there is a discussion if the Witness can take full power loads of 10mm or not. Or full pressure loads. Or +P loads...is there a +p 10mm load?

    It appears the elite version is the best compared to the standard.

    I think a used Smith 10xx series might be a better non-1911 choice but the prices have gone up on those and as I posted the letter earlier not that many were made.
     
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  9. Here's what I want. A little pricey though.

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    ...and no, 10mm is not on any sort of rise, like has been said, all one has to do is look at the limited offerings in guns and ammo.
     
  10. Can't say I know anyone that owns a 10mm pistol. I believe most of the guys I know take shot placement more seriously then caliber.
     
  11. Who actually currently makes a 10mm platform?

    Glock 20/29
    Colt DE 1911
    EAA Witness
    Kimber 1911
    Dan Wesson 1911
    Fusion 1911
    Smith 610
    Sphinx 3000

    Am I missing any?
     
  12. Representing just 3 semi auto designs, and one revolver. A shrouded hammer snub nose in 10mm would be awesome.
     
  13. Yes! Bond Arms.
     
  14. Bullman

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    Thompson Center may still chamber a 10mm, Mech Tech, while not a gun maker per se manufactures one of their CCU units in 10mm, and Olympic used to make a 10mm upper for the AR 15.
     
  15. GlockFish

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    I better roll up my 5.11 tactical pant legs, it's getting deep in here.
    I agree with WiskyT & Bullman.... And the millions of other Ruger revolver owners who know Ruger makes a good, strong, tank of a gun.
    Sounds like you're just a Ruger hater, S&W Fan-boy.

    :rofl:
     
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  16. deadite

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    It's too bad. If you knew someone who had one they may have let you try and shoot theirs. Then, you'd know how flat a trajectory the 10mm has and how accurate they can be. My 10mm's are more accurate than my 45ACP's.

    Sorry, not jumping on the hate wagon.

    deadite
     
  17. deadite

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    + Wilson Combat, Nighthawk Custom and Ed Brown used to.

    deadite
     
  18. 10mm wish list

    S&W 10xx double stack
    S&W M&P-10
    SA XDm-10
    H&K HK-10
     
  19. Bullman

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    I kind of had a wish to convert my 4516 to 10mm, and I thought I had found a guy to make the barrel, but I will get an e mail reply, and then not hear from the dude for a few months. I am about to give up, just get me a Glock 29 and be done with it. I might send the 4516 back to Smith and have some work done to it, maybe convert it to DAO, but I think I will just leave it as a 45.
     
  20. carbuncle

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    Oh, there's a 1006 on the list already!
     

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