close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

10MM carry ammo recommendation

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by mclaren, Dec 23, 2009.


  1. mclaren

    mclaren
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    174
    1
    Will be carrying a G20 after Christmas for self defense. I work alone in a high crime area so I am upgrading to the 10. I am not really interrested in mail order only ammo like BB or DT. I plan to get some for fun but for now need dependable factory ammo. I think the silvertip is slightly outdated, but you tell me.
    I need penetration, I work among lots of cover I may need to shoot through.
    I can live with a little overpenetration, its a pretty desolate area.
    I just need balls-out power any druggie can feel.

    Does any factory load come close to DT or BB on power? I will sacrifice a a little energy for total dependability.

    What do I need?
     

    Wanna kill these ads? We can help!
  2. xrmattaz

    xrmattaz
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2002
    1,847
    1
    Location:
    prescott, arizona
    I truly enjoy Mike McNett's Doubletap loads. (his 180 grainers do ~1300 fps from a G20 barrel)

    The Winchester Silvertip, 175 gr. at ~1200 fps. is no slouch, either! (right around 600 lbs/ft. energy)

    (The Silvertip is my preferred carry, in .44 Special, when I carry a revolver)
     

    #2 xrmattaz, Dec 23, 2009
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2009
  3. deadmonkey90

    deadmonkey90
    Expand Collapse
    Pro Bass Angler

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    1,222
    0
    Location:
    NW Indiana
    black talons.
     
  4. fredj338

    fredj338
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2004
    21,482
    830
    Location:
    so.cal.
    The 175gr WSTHP is a good load giving 1250fps from a 5". It expands well at that vel.
     
  5. mclaren

    mclaren
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    174
    1
    Black talon 10mm is like antique ammo now right?
    Can I get SXT or Ranger T?
     
  6. Jdog

    Jdog
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2007
    954
    0
    Location:
    wasatch range
    Don't know why you wouldnt think DT or BB isn't dependable premium factory ammo. Based on the ammo you're describing maybe the 200gr Controlled Expansion JHP if u want good penetration in a hollow point... here's what I recommend:

    http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_25&products_id=40
     
  7. bfg1971

    bfg1971
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2003
    1,707
    81
    Location:
    Ewa Beach, HI
    I hate to say it but if you want to find enough ammo to be able to fill a couple of mags and have a few practice sessions you might need to look at mail order ammo.

    Most of the 10mm shooters on GT have at least tried DT and few have anything bad to say about it. It is what I use in my 20 and 29.
     
  8. MedicOni

    MedicOni
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2008
    2,548
    2
    Location:
    Central NM
    I'd got with DT 180gr JHP. Great stuff there
     
  9. PghJim

    PghJim
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2005
    1,935
    49
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    If you do not want mail order, you will not shoot any 10mm. Nobody stocks it and if the do it is generally the 175 gr. Silver Tip, which is a good Round and the one I would carry if DT was not around. For some reasom Corbon loads 10mm like 40 S&W. For outside carry, I use DT 165 gr, Golden Sabers. They are the best performing 40 S&W round and I carry a G29 so would have less velocity.
     
  10. SDGlock23

    SDGlock23
    Expand Collapse
    Glockoholic

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2005
    6,489
    134
    Location:
    Under the dome on the flat earth
    For non mail order, you have the Federal Hydra Shok, which is essentially a .40. That's not a bad thing, but it's real light for 10mm.

    Also there is the Hornady lineup. They offer 155gr, 180gr, and 200gr. Their 155gr lists somewhere around 1350+ fps. Their 180gr lists at 1180fps and their 200gr lists at 1050 fps.

    There is also the Winchester 175gr Silvertip. I've heard mixed opinions on it. Some say it does what the box claims, others say it really does around 1150 fps.

    Corbon has a couple. I've chronoed the 165gr JHP and it did around 1150 from the Glock 20... essentially a .40.

    If I were you, I think I would choose Hornady. Or mail order ammo from BB. Or buy a pistol with more premium options like a 9mm, 40 or 45, it will cost you less and still be very effective.
     
    #10 SDGlock23, Dec 23, 2009
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2009
  11. t-shooter

    t-shooter
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2001
    122
    0
    Location:
    Dallas, Texas USA
    I carry 180 gr Speer Gold Dot from Double Tap as an all-around load. For CHL purposes I like the silvertips.
     
  12. BigHutch

    BigHutch
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    25
    0
    Location:
    behind you...
  13. deadmonkey90

    deadmonkey90
    Expand Collapse
    Pro Bass Angler

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    1,222
    0
    Location:
    NW Indiana
    yea both are great, ranger t is just the new black talon
     
  14. MarkCO

    MarkCO
    Expand Collapse
    Millennium Member CLM

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 1998
    2,492
    60
    Location:
    Colorado
    Double-Taps first, then Silvertips.
     
  15. Ak.Hiker

    Ak.Hiker
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2005
    1,868
    13
    Location:
    Homer Alaska
    For your needs go with the Winchester 175 grain Silvertip or the Hornady 180 grain XTP. Both of these loads are a step above the 40 S&W in power and the 40 is a pretty well thought of SD load. They would also be a step above the 40 if you needed to put down a wild animal. If you do change your mind on mail order DT makes some very good 10mm loads.
     
  16. DLL9mm

    DLL9mm
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2009
    2,924
    20
    Location:
    MICHIGAN
    I like the Golden Sabers from Double Tap. When I carried a 10mm, I used those or SilverTips.
     
  17. mclaren

    mclaren
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    174
    1
    Thanks for all of the good advice. I recieved a G20C this morning, the girlfriend treats me right. The only ammo she could find was 155 gr XTP's. I carry hornady ammo more than anything else but these seem a little light loaded. 1268 fps I think. Double Taps are like 1450. Maybe you guys are right, that's why I asked. These should be about 550 ft/lbs which is nothing to sneeze at but I'll take the extra 200 fps.
    As far as the gun goes, what a sweet piece. I put trijicons on it 10 minutes after it came out of the box. Now for a holster!
    Am I at the end of the road for my recoil spring? If I step up to the big boy loads like the 155/1450 will the stock spring beg for mercy?
     
    LASTRESORT20 likes this.
  18. MSgt Dotson

    MSgt Dotson
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2006
    3,268
    8
    Hornady offers the 200 gr XTP @ 1050 fps....
     
    LASTRESORT20 likes this.
  19. IndyGunFreak

    IndyGunFreak
    Expand Collapse
    KO Windows

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2001
    25,695
    982
    Location:
    Indiana
    Georgia Arms also makes some popular 10mm JHP's.

    Unfortunately, you're going to learn very quickly why a lot of 10mm folks reload. Think very clearly on what you're doing. If you can't get ammo to practice with, a 10mm isn't going to do you any good. Either relax your standards on not going mail order, or you're likely going to have to change calibers. I'd focus on getting a gun and PRACTICE. Placement trumps caliber any day of the week, but that wasn't really the point of this thread.

    IGF
     
  20. Waffentomas

    Waffentomas
    Expand Collapse
    Semper Fidelis
    Millennium Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 1999
    121
    0
    Location:
    Blue State
    Hornday 155s are good enough for now. They are a reliable feeding, reliable expanding bullet, that penetrates well. Even the 155s penetrate, don't let the light wt. throw you, this bullet is designed to go deep. Silvertips are hit and miss. I've had them move at 1220+ in my Glock 20, and I've had them average around 1150 as well. I"ve also had some pretty wacked standard deviations from them. The 1290 fps listed is from a 6" test barrel, you'll never get that from a 4.6" comped barrel - ever.

    You'll need to go to Double Tap to wring out the 10mm as it was meant to be, but for now, you are well armed. FWIW, I always keeps 100 rounds of the Hornday 155s around, just because. I carry the DT 165gr Gold Dot, and use the 230gr Equalizer for the house.

    Tom