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00 or 000 Buck

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by mattz357, May 14, 2010.

  1. mattz357

    mattz357

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    I ran into a guy the other day who was talking about his Taurus Public Defender and got talking about ammo for it. He said that 000 buck was smaller than 00 buck, but that sounded odd since the 000 usually has fewer pellets (implication that they are larger???). Does anyone know the size/caliber of the pellets used in each of these? Thanks in advance!
     

  2. F_G

    F_G

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    He is incorrect, here is how it breaks down.

    0000 - .38" dia.
    000 - .36" dia.
    00 - .33" dia
    0 - .32" dia
     
  3. ajjacks916

    ajjacks916 IDPA SO

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    +1 to RedHaze, that diagram is a perfect reference.
     
  4. MTPD

    MTPD

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    In my tests, 000 shoots smaller patterns than 00, but 000 pellets themselves are bigger than 00.
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2010
  5. skorittnig

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  6. Buckshot is not like steel wool, where the more 0's you have
    the smaller or finer it gets.
    Nice chart Red, I'm gonna save that one.
     
  7. RedHaze

    RedHaze Handgunner

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    It'd be nice if it gave the actual caliber size of the shot as well... but for googling shotgun shot size it's not half bad.
     
  8. method

    method

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    Here's one with diameters. An easy way to figure the diameter of a birdshot pellet is to subtract the size number from 17, and move the decimal to the left two places (for #8, 17-8, move the decimal, you get .09)
    [​IMG]
     
  9. no that dude works at academy they got some experts there
     
  10. maustypsu

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    Have to add pellet count to this. Taken from Cabela's Remington 2 3/4" buckshot.

    3 buck 20
    1 buck 16
    00 buck 9
    000 buck 8


    Everyone has to make this call for themselves but I like 16 pellets in the 1 buck at .30 vs. the 9 bellets in the 00 at .32 and 20 pellets in the 3 buck at .25.

    That said they are all pretty much the same amount of lead, what ever they can fit into your shell - 2 3/4, 3 or 3 1/2. And 00 buck seems to be the easiest to find in my experience.
     
  11. N/Apower

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    After all the penetration tests I have done with buckshot, I prefer 000. You would be suprised at how little it takes to stop buckshot.
     
  12. SJC G20

    SJC G20 NW Glockers

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    Some great information posted. Thanks guys!
     
  13. team9x19

    team9x19 the bee's knees

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    just load the winnie pdx1 .. three 00's followed by a rifled slug. my hd 870 loves me fisting 6 of'em in her.. :rock:
     
  14. WoodenPlank

    WoodenPlank Who?

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    Or the Bass Pro Shops near where I live? :upeyes:

    I have had two associates in there claim there is a video of the .410 PDX1 for the Judge being used to shoot a 200+ pound dummy and knocking it back at least 15 feet. They might have even claimed 15 yards. They definitely need to lay off of whatever it is they are smoking.
     
  15. team9x19

    team9x19 the bee's knees

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    :rofl:
     
  16. BOGE

    BOGE Millennium Member

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    The topic that refuses to die.

    It has been show ad nauseum that #1 buck is the best of both worlds as 16 pellets cause more ¨mass on target¨ yet still are large.
     
  17. RMTactical

    RMTactical www.AR15pro.net CLM

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    Did you even bother to read the original post? This is not a "which is better" thread.

    That said, why do you always get worked up when a topic gets brought up more than once? This is a forum for discussion, not a library.
     
  18. WoodenPlank

    WoodenPlank Who?

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    The first time I heard one of them say it, it was to another customer. A good buddy of mine from NC and I were at the gun counter when he said it. My buddy looked at me, with the classic "Did I just hear what I THINK I just heard?" look on his face, followed by him muttering something to the effect of the guy needed to be slapped.
     
  19. team9x19

    team9x19 the bee's knees

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    indeed that gentleman needed to be slapped!
    i'm not one for correcting most people, but damn.. when information is so incorrect you just have to correct if for the betterment of everyone else that could potentially receive that b.s. info from that degenerate!