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Competition Glock. What Mods, Trigger, and Mag Pouches?

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#1 ·
I have a Gen 4 G34 and so far the only mod is Savigny Sights, what other mods especially trigger should I do? What is the best mag pouches? I would prefer ones that tilt. Thanks in advance.
 
#2 ·
You mean Sevigny? What venue of competition are you going to shoot? USPSA/IDPA/Steel Challenge or 3 gun? Depending on the division, guns and gear have certain restrictions. Because there is way way more going on in competition than just guns and gear, modifications are not a substitute for mastering the fundamentals of stance, grip, sight picture and trigger control, followed by transition and movement. Best thing you can do is get to a match. Most clubs have loaner pouches for Glocks and 1911s.
 
#4 ·
Of course can use the 34 in limited (and do as you like) but as you mention your "newbie", you do know the 34 will be scored as minor in Limited thus would likely be much better suited for Production scoring wise?

Very different what modifications you can use for those two divisions, with production being far more restrictive.
 
#5 ·
Ok, the G34 is not the first choice for USPSA Limited Division because it's scored Major (the G22/G35 is the best for Major), and not Minor. Meaning a 9mm gets less earned points for B/C and D hits. You will want to be in Production, which is all scored minor. Again best thing you can do is get to your nearest match and see how things work. Call the match director to be sure that a safety course, usually 1/2 day to a full day, is not required before you can shoot a match. In the meantime get a good holster, like a BladeTech Revolution (belt loop), Wilderness Tactical Instructors belt, BladeTech single mag pouches, 5 and at least 6 mags for Production. Electric ears are a plus, the Peltor Tac 6 is $60 at Amazon.
 
#10 ·
Sure, easy, just walk on to your first match and plan on smoking Vogel, Sevigny, Nils, you know all them Grand Masters that practice like 2,000 rounds a week. Well you could do that if you wanted a hit factor of less than 1, but that's what the C in DVC is for, speed. Earned points minus penalties and mikes, divided by time, it's not IDPA.
 
#7 ·
Take 9X45's advice and just go out there. Don't worry about mods. Mods are the kind of thing that if you don't know what mods you need, you don't need them. When you learn enough, you will know what mods to run (because all the guys ahead of you on the order of merit will be running them).
 
#9 ·
There may be nothing more satisfying than beating a bunch of veterans, as a newcomer, who are armed to the teeth with the latest and greatest, while you are shooting your stone stock gun.

I was in a skeet league a long time ago when a kid showed up with an old Remington 870. Some of the old farts didn't want him around as he clearly was new to the game. By the end of the season he was beating most of the guys with O/U's that cost more than the car they drove. Some fun that.
 
#11 ·
Minor in limited is a significant disadvantage points wise, but you also have to remember not everyone is there for the same goal (i.e. Getting the best score).

One could make a point that productions emphasis on reloading and gaming strategy due to lower capacity might turn off some folks. Hey if they have a better time, and safely develope better shooting skills facing match challenges they could never get at a static range, with a Glock 19 with 15 round mags in limited; and have a happy afternoon regardless of where they place, I say rock on brother!
 
#12 ·
I recommend the Vogel trigger assembly if its only going to be a paper puncher. Even if not they have one 4.5lb spring, even tho their lightest spring on mine breaks near 4.2 lbs. http://glocktriggers.com/products/vogel/ You wont be sorry. I also love my Dawson love my Dawson adjustables for my 34 and will eventually buy one for my 19. https://dawsonprecision.com/copy-of...ght-set-fiber-optic-rear-fiber-optic-front-1/

Good shooting. The hardest part of owning the 34 is getting it out of your hands to shoot your other pistols.
 
#13 ·
Shooting minor in Limited is not going to hurt the quality of your early experience. If you want to use some non-Production hardware, go for it. Even if all you want to do is overload 17r mags in a Production-legal gun, just take whatever approach is most logical for you. It will be fine.
 
#17 ·
Big, you mean when you heard "Are you Ready?"

At least the BOD dropped the stupid 10 round thing for CO. So now we can play Limited Open Production Minor, LOPM, for short... or maybe MOPL,

APPENDIX D7, CARRY OPTICS, PROVISIONAL Amended 2/1/2017
Maximum magazine length Yes, 141.25 mm (5.561”)
Maximum ammunition capacity No

Stoeger said

"You thought Carry Optics was for old guys that just wanted to put a dot on their production guns only to reload every time they move. Well, you were wrong, Carry Optics is now for poor people that don't have the scratch for a proper open gun."

This got 6 pages of traffic on Benos

http://forums.brianenos.com/index.php?/topic/244493-carry-optics-mag-capacity-change/&
 
#18 ·
At least the BOD dropped the stupid 10 round thing for CO. So now we can play Limited Open Production Minor, LOPM, for short... or maybe MOPL,
What makes one limitation stupid, IE 10 rounds, but a different limitation perfectly acceptable, IE 141.5mm? Why not remove all limitations then?
 
#19 ·
Why not remove all limitations then?

Blasphemy! I say, it goes against the very heart of USPSA. You mean have no restrictions on anything? Gun or gear, and only one scoring value, no Major or Minor?. Only one Division (RWUG) Run what you Got. Complete chaos would ensue. You would have Open Division Major 9 guns up against 5 shot J frames running full house ammo. How in the world could that be competitive....
 
#21 ·
Yes, I remember the beginning also. Run what you brung, even before Open, but then shooters wanted categories that favored their equipment. So then rules happened and divisions were formed.

Surprisingly, I did answer your question. I said it was blasphemy to remove all limitations. It will no more ever happen than scoring everything Minor. The 10 round thing was stupid because the whole concept of limiting a gun to 10 rounds, from the original capacity of, say 17 for a Glock. It'd be like shooting USPSA in Hawaii, 10 round Open....
 
#22 ·
Yes, I remember the beginning also. Run what you brung, even before Open, but then shooters wanted categories that favored their equipment. So then rules happened and divisions were formed.

Surprisingly, I did answer your question. I said it was blasphemy to remove all limitations. It will no more ever happen than scoring everything Minor. The 10 round thing was stupid because the whole concept of limiting a gun to 10 rounds, from the original capacity of, say 17 for a Glock. It'd be like shooting USPSA in Hawaii, 10 round Open....
What makes a length limitation reasonable, but a capacity limitation unreasonable? If not 10, how about 15, or 20? It allows more guns to be competitive.

Also, USPSA enforced a strict 140mm magazine limit at one nationals to essentially screw people shooting one brand of handgun, yet extended the mag limit to 171.5 at another when it looked like a more "favored" manufacturer was at risk of being disqualified. (Eventually 1.5mm extension was applied to both divisions).
 
#24 ·
Stoeger said

"You thought Carry Optics was for old guys that just wanted to put a dot on their production guns only to reload every time they move. Well, you were wrong, Carry Optics is now for poor people that don't have the scratch for a proper open gun."

This got 6 pages of traffic on Benos

http://forums.brianenos.com/index.php?/topic/244493-carry-optics-mag-capacity-change/&
I would not argue with Stoeger on how to hit a target quickly and accurately, but I think he missed the cultural mark on that. Carry optics vs. Open is kind of Field Dark Earth and tactical beard culture vs Brightly colored spandex shirts and endorsements culture.
 
#26 ·
I would not argue with Stoeger on how to hit a target quickly and accurately, but I think he missed the cultural mark on that. Carry optics vs. Open is kind of Field Dark Earth and tactical beard culture vs Brightly colored spandex shirts and endorsements culture.

It's only what sells new magic, that's all. Leatham shot CO at Area 2 last year, and Jerrys been pushing the M&P CORE.
 
#27 ·
I shoot a 34 in Limited minor. As long as you can get Alphas you're okay. I know easier said than done but still doable. I thought about building a 35 but I can hang with the major guys so I'm not spending the money yet.

Here is how my gun is setup: Zev Fulcrum adjustable trigger setup (complete with striker and safety plunger), Zev magwell, Taran Tactical +5/6 extensions, Sevigny Competition sights, BladeTech belt, Black Scorpion mag pouches and a Comp-Tac holster. I like the Comp-Tac holster because it is more rigid but I will be switching to an Alpha-X race holster soon. The next item for the gun is a barrel and I'm leaning towards a KKM barrel, only because it is a drop-in, I would go with a Bar-Sto but don't want to be without my gun while it is getting fitted plus the wait time is 6-8 weeks for the barrel.

My loads are 147gr. Xtreme HPs loaded on 3.4gr. TightGroup with Federal primers: 130pf.

I also shoot that gun in GSSF but obviously it puts me in Unlimited which I'm okay with that, after all it's all about having fun and being around friends.
 
#28 ·
For a simple but really nice feeling trigger I like the Ghost EVO connector. A gunsmith did the fitting on the one in my 17. I recently bought a 34 to use in USPSA Production and after looking at the EVO in my 17 thought "I can do that". With a little help from youtube I got it done and it feels really good.

10-8 fiber optics for sights. Double Alpha belt and mag pouches. My rig is capable of much more than my skill level and probably will be for a long time...
 
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