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Glocktalk share your wisdom! Which .40 should I get?

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#1 ·
I want to get a new pistol in .40. I don't really NEED new pistol in .40 (I have an FNS 40 currently). . . but I want one. This is a full size pistol, not going for concealment at all. Range fun and open-carry self defense during the coming Progressive Uprising (kidding!) would be the two use cases.

I'm torn between two options.

Get a PX4 Storm in 40.
Why I'm considering it:
- Rotating barrel system is cool.
- Rotating barrel supposed to reduce recoil.
- Factory 17 round extended mags available.
- Have a 92A1 in 9mm. Would make a nice match for it. Older design (92) in older cartridge (9mm), new design (PX4) in new cartridge (.40).
- Looks are growing on me.
- DPM Recoil Reduction System available.
- Good experience with Berettas

Hold out for a 5" M&P 2.0 in Black.
Why I'm considering it:
- Sharp looking.
- Liking the 5" barrel and the extra heat it will put on a .40 round.
- Lots of accessories available for the M&P
- Previous version M&P gets better review than PX4 Storm
- It's the new hotness.
- Reported to accept existing DPM Recoil Reduction System
- Seems like it might be more resistant to failure than PX4 in harsh duty environment
- Lower bore axis than PX4, might counteract the advantage of the rotating barrel.
- Won't confuse the M&P mags with my other Beretta mags

Share your experiences! Help me pick!
 
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#3 ·
Of those two, I'd pick the G24. :)

Sorry, but I didn't see it was a limited choice until I clicked on it.
I'd pick the 24 also.

:supergrin:

wp
 
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#4 ·
Yeah, and I would pick the SIG-Sauer P229.

I have a Beretta Cougar 8040F chambered in .40 S&W. It is an all-metal pistol (alloy frame) with the same type of rotary barrel breech lock mechanism that the PX4 Storm full-size and compact uses, and roughly comparable in size to the full-size PX4 with a bit shorter barrel and slide.

The Cougar shoots .40 S&W very well. The rotary barrel lock-up does seem to mitigate recoil. It likes to be well-lubricated and kept clean.
 
#7 ·
Several replies, too bad so few of them answered the question.

FYI to all you Glock suggesters. I don't like Glocks. They point weirdly, and my trigger scrapes the trigger guard in a weird way. Not a problem I've had with any other gun. Which is too bad as kinda like the bare-bones functional look of Glocks. . . but they're just not for me.
 
#10 ·
PX4 Storm in 40?

If they sold these in California, I would own one.
 
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#16 ·
The rotating barrel system doesn't appeal to me (yes, I've shot & handled them), so it wouldn't be the Beretta. The grip and trigger don't help, either (but I could adapt and live with it without undue angst).

The original/current M&P 40 is close to being the softest shooting .40 I've ever handled and used (I recently carried one for some months as an issued weapon). My M&P 40c shoots as lightly as a larger G23.

I haven't shot the M&P 2.0 yet, but I've examined one and I do like a couple of the new features.

Without giving away any secrets, the increased length of the stainless steel chassis molded into the frame reduces frame flex even more, which lends itself to increasing the length of the time the slide/barrel remain locked. This is the sort of thing that can help reduce felt recoil, and increase potential accuracy. (FWIW, in the S&W 3rd gen TSW's, delaying unlocking was a part of the design which was claimed to increase potential inherent accuracy, as well as reduce felt recoil, and after many years of owning, carrying and shooting 3rd gen's, I can see the merit to those claims.)

The new slide stop assembly (and the addition of the tensioned detent in the frame) is a slick idea. It eliminates the need for a wire spring to tension the slide stop, and it will help reduce the potential for "over aggressive" magazine insertion to cause what's become known in the industry as an "auto-forward" condition (bump releasing the locked back slide).

The revised trigger mechanism will probably please those folks who disliked the soft "2 click" mechanical recovery of the original design, and provide them with a more tactile & audible recovery/reset. (Not even close to being high on my own list of preferences, but then I'm a trigger recovery shooter, versus a trigger reset shooter.)

The new texture is abrasive, but ought to work well with gloves. The addition of a 4th palm-swell grip insert makes it even more likely to fit 95% of the shooter's hands.

I rather suspect that as the year progresses we'll see some additional products and models released by S&W, and it will be an interesting and exciting time for gun owners and shooters.
 
#19 · (Edited)
TheDreadnought,
Limited, as no experience with the Storm nor M&P 2.0. But I have 2 M&P 1.0 in .40 S&W w/4.25" barrels.

M&P FS is not known for being particularly consistent grouping guns. 9 mm has a reputation for a few/some guns being horribly grouping. FS .40 guns are not as bad as that. You should expect it to be about a 4 - 7" gun, depending on ammo, for 5 shots bench rested at 25 yards. In general, without a lot of mods, not as consistent grouping as my G23's. So unless there are significant accuracy improvements in the 2.0 version, you might want to look for a more inherently consistent grouping gun, depending on what you want it for.

Having said that, I have an M&P Pro CORE 4.25" barrel .40 that my best of the best 2 SD loads average groups are 2.1" and 2.6". But other than that it is a 3 + - 5" gun at 25 yds with other ammo. That is despite being a "Pro" model, wearing a Trij RMR06 red dot and an Apex flat faced trigger w/around 3.5 # pull. So I am even watching to see if Apex comes out with a gunsmith fit .40 barrel for that one. I won't ever get rid of it ... it is my current HD, field/woods/wild back up, and hunting light skin game gun. But all in all, for what $ I have in it, I would start out with something different if starting over.
 
#20 ·
This is a Glock page, so there is that perplexing item.

In all, and it sounds like you've done your homework, it all comes to the same basic items. Get what feels best, seems to be a natural extension of your arm, points naturally, and fits your recoil needs.
You know the strong and weak points of your choices, but maybe you should expand your horizons.

Happy Shopping.
 
#28 ·
Both the Px4 and the predecessor the Cougar are NATO and Geman proof house qualified... Cold forged barrels and the rotating feature is both recoil soaking and very robust.

BTW, just like the 92 one can drop a D spring in and improve the trigger (use the Cougar D spring). Really easy breakdown and exchangeable grip size.
 
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