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CZ P10-C and Glock 19 gen 4 grip width comparison

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#1 ·
I'm looking for a side by side picture of the new P10-C and a gen 4 Glock 19 so I can verify in my own twisted mind that the P10-C will be as narrow as the Glock 19 gen 4. If anyone has both so I can see a side by side on the grip width, I would really appreciate it. Already ordered the gun, first gun I've ever ordered without handling. Thanks for the help guys/gals....
 
#6 ·
TXPO had one for t&e. Didn't know if anyone else had one and a gen 4 19 so I could see the grip width compared. I've never bought a gun without feeling it up, until now with the p10. So I'm just trying to reassure myself everything will be OK..

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#15 ·
It's my first CZ. I ordered it sight unseen and never held one. I've ordered a lot of guns this way.

I try to make sure I really want it before I do that and I really want the P10C. I was planning on buying another gen4 19 to replace my "stolen" gen2 and gen4 19 but decided on the P10C instead. My LE dealer keeps calling me and asking what Glocks I want this year. I told him to get me two gen4 32s instead.

FWIW's my gen4 19 was from 2015 and had no brass to face issues and went a few thousand rounds suppressed and unsuppressed. My exwife says she hasn't had any issues with it but she isn't shooting it as much as I would and my mom won't give me back my gen2 so I can try suppressing it. So I will eventually buy another 19 so I can use the threaded barrel I have for it (yes it's cheaper to sell the barrel but I want another 19)
 
#16 · (Edited)
Here ya go. FWIW, there isn't enough difference in size between the two, that most folks will never notice. In actual numbers the P10 is slightly thinner than the G19 width wise.

Everything about the P10 has gotten better and better since I first started shooting it. It hasn't failed once, hasn't been cleaned, or lubricated, and eats everything that has been put through it, all different weights, and brands of 9mm. It has about 1k round count to date. It so far has been outstanding, and I don't want to send it back. I also have an LE version on order, but who knows when they will show up. I don' really care personally, the P10, is just that good IMO.

I do have two concerns about it, I am hoping duty holsters will be made for it, although I have an ALS for an M&P that it works just fine in. I hope some good aftermarket sights are made for it, like the HD's I prefer a bright front sighting system. I suspect once it has been out for a while it will gain popularity quickly, and the aftermarket will catch up with it.

Other than that, the thing is a winner in my book, and once they start rolling out, CZ is gonna have their hands full. There are so many things to like about this pistol, and so many features, that folks don't even know about yet.

I've said it before and I'll reiterate, CZ has basically built a better Glock.....(Mic Drop).

Note the front straps are the same height.





Its that much taller than the 19, and it's only on the back strap area, the front strap is the same height.

And that much longer than the 19


No brass to the face with the P10. Check out the video from some range time

http://vid238.photobucket.com/album...2-CA2A-491F-A0F3-FE0B9C486299_zpskz1ffhpg.mp4

TXPO
 
#19 ·
Looking at it from the rear, it's much nicer. That's what I dislike about the G19...the unfinished rear strap and the bottom of your palm digging into it. It doesn't hurt; it just doesn't feel normal. Looks like the frt strap is a couple degrees less than the Glock and hump on the rear strap is a few degrees less. A true Glock 'pointer' would have the muzzle of the CZ in the dirt. Lastly, it doesn't have the low bore axis of the Glock, so my guess is the Glock may be a little easier to keep on target when shooting fast. All in all, it's a nice looking piece. I'd like to shoot it.
 
#20 ·
TXPO can answer this much better then I can, but here is my small take on it. As far muzzle flip, the Glock slide rides on top of the slide, where as the p10 slide rides inside the frame. Therefore probably giving more of a pushing feeling then a muzzle rise or flip. I could and have been many times wrong, but that's my educated guess. I'll have to look at the pictures again, didn't look too me like the p10 had a higher bore axis.
 
#24 ·
I could very well be wrong, but from watching videos of reassemble, it looks like the slide goes inside the frame and not on top of it.
Here's a video from Sooch putting the slide back on. It starts at 16:50. Like I said, I don't have the firearm so I could very easily be wrong, it just looks like it sits inside the from versus on top like a Glock.


 
#31 ·
He was more referring to the internals having differences. He kinda ran his thoughts together. The frame rails that the slide goes on looks just like a Glock...not identical, but very close.

'keeping Glock on their toes' is a good advertisement for Glock. Means they are already doing something right. My thoughts on the chamber, locking lugs and feed ramp, though they are a little different, do not make anything necessarily better than the Glock, especially that wide ass feed ramp.
 
#32 · (Edited)
Having been a Glock shooter for many years, gives me a good baseline to compare other pistols to. The bore axis thing is highly overrated IMO. Bore axis height can effect the recoil and handling characteristics of a pistol, but it isn't the end all be all of how a pistol handles or performs. I have a P320 that has a much higher bore axis than my Glocks, and I can run them just as fast as my Glocks, but with greater accuracy.

The P10's bore axis is as close to a Glock as you can get without being a Glock. So if bore axis is a big deal to you, you will be happy with the P-10

The P-10 was not designed around the typical CZ platform, and they purposely didn't take many cues from their other platforms.

CZ took the base Glock design, and improved on it in the areas that needed improving, IE grip angle, grip contour, no 2x4 feeling with the P-10, no finger humps, etc. etc.

What needs to be understood here, is CZ did this for a reason. They knew Glocks were extremely popular, and so they took the best of what a Glock is, and kept those attributes. They took what alot of folks don't like or complain about in the Glock, and addressed those issues.

Comparing both pistol in stock form, there is nothing on the Glock that I like better than the CZ. There are a lot of things I like better about the CZ and so for me, the CZ is a better pistol. YMMV

CZ didn't reinvent the wheel, but they did go from polyglass radials, to a synthetic z rated racing tire.
 
#33 ·
Having been a Glock shooter for many years, gives me a good baseline to compare other pistols to. The bore axis thing is highly overrated IMO. Bore axis height can effect the recoil and handling characteristics of a pistol, but it isn't the end all be all of how a pistol handles or performs. I have a P320 that has a much higher bore axis than my Glocks, and I can run them just as fast as my Glocks, but with greater accuracy.

The P10's bore axis is as close to a Glock as you can get without being a Glock. So if bore axis is a big deal to you, you will be happy with the P-10

The P-10 was not designed around the typical CZ platform, and they purposely didn't take many cues from their other platforms.

CZ took the base Glock design, and improved on it in the areas that needed improving, IE grip angle, grip contour, no 2x4 feeling with the P-10, no finger humps, etc. etc.

What needs to be understood here, is CZ did this for a reason. They knew Glocks were extremely popular, and so they took the best of what a Glock is, and kept those attributes. They took what alot of folks don't like or complain about in the Glock, and addressed those issues.

Comparing both pistol in stock form, there is nothing on the Glock that I like better than the CZ. There are a lot of things I like better about the CZ and so for me, the CZ is a better pistol. YMMV

CZ didn't reinvent the wheel, but they did go from polyglass radials, to a synthetic z rated racing tire.
I've been wanting one and once they're available; I'll own one.
 
#36 ·
Waiting for a timeframe from the CZ rep, hoping to hear back from him today. I've been told from people that don't work at CZUSA that it will be end of February, then I see Cabela's not only changed Thier timeframe on the p10 to19-20 weeks, but also changed their price. So not really feeling confident with them.
 
#40 ·
The P-10 C is a 2017 release, and we will hope to see the first large shipment arrive at the end of April. CZUB has experienced delays in the production of the P-10 C. Since SHOT Show, our ETA has been bumped back every few days. Discussions with the factory revealed that the realistic date for first delivery is in late April. We apologize for the delay; we had expected to begin delivery in January.



All CZ Direct Dealers listed on our site are permitted to accept pre-orders on this new model now. To find a Dealer to order with, visit our website's Dealer Locator:



http://cz-usa.com/dealers/locate-a-dealer/



You can contact the Authorized Dealers of your choice to place an order directly through us. As soon as we have the item you ordered come through, we fill the orders on a first come first serve basis. With the anticipated popularity of the CZ being sky high, the sooner you look to order, the higher up on the list you will be.


Thanks,


Dereck Miller

Sales Assistant

800-955-4486 x 334

fax: 913-321-2251

CZ-USA



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