A little while back, a guy at the range was trying to decide on a new gun, as his Hi-Point had broken (seriously, true story). He said a lot of people were telling him to buy a Glock, but he was reluctant to get one, because as far as he could tell, "Glocks just aren't accurate."
I decided to bite my tongue, and stay the heck away from that argument (although it was tempting). Some younger guy did take the bait, and argued with him- all to no avail.* The most pleasurable part of it? Just the day prior to that, I had my G23 at the range, and a couple of the best shooters asked to try it. Not surprisingly, both of them were able to shoot my gun very accurately.
I thought about this again today, as I had my G23 out for another spin. I was having a good (for me, at least), shooting day. A buddy there, who is a really good shooter, also shot a couple of magazines with it. He shot a clothes pin off the 25 yard fence, and then shot a 2 inch 10 round group on a target at 7 yards.
Man, that Glock is just not accurate.
*Interestingly enough, the Hi-Point owner was back the other day, and had purchased a new gun. He had bought a S&W SD9VE, which is.... basically a Glock clone.
This debate is never going to be settled. What is accurate to one person could be totally the opposite to another. It's very objective.
To me, Glocks have fair to decent "Combat" accuracy. Precision target pistols they certainly aren't, but that's not their intended purpose.
Even the G34 or G17L aren't target pistols and they are no more accurate than the other Glocks. The longer sight radius can help folks shoot them more accurately.
This debate is never going to be settled. What is accurate to one person could be totally the opposite to another. It's very objective.
To me, Glocks have fair to decent "Combat" accuracy. Precision target pistols they certainly aren't, but that's not their intended purpose.
Even the G34 or G17L aren't target pistols and they are no more accurate than the other Glocks. The longer sight radius can help folks shoot them more accurately.
Fair comment but, for SD purposes, I'm only interested in the 10 - 15 yard distances, to give myself something to aim at. Real world distances will be less than this. What's more, I would be using 147 grain FMJ. Two aimed at the breast bone and one in the mouth. Immediately behind the mouth is the medulla oblongata, the body's off-switch. If you can't immediately do this, then practise until you can.
I understand that this flies in the face of current SD philosophy, but I am informed that the British SAS is quite on board with the idea. The whole world knows who wrote the book on such things.
I know I'm still trying to figure out how to shoot my 43 with Talo nightsights.
Goes left and up a bit then I pick up my M&P 9C or TP9SA and I go bullseye no issue.
So for me my frist glock isn't the most accurate past 15 yards... YET
I consider glocks sufficiently accurate for combat pistols and about on par with other combat pistols ( roughly 3" 25 yard groups give take a bit) which is also about what I got in the past with parallel testing of multiple different autos from several different makers. ( glock S&W hk beretta sig) if I want more accuracy I get it from revolvers or 1911's. But for defensive purposes or shooting games with similar accuracy demands (uspsa idpa and such) any of them glock included will do just fine
Mas Ayoob did testing with G26's shooting 2.5" groups at 25 yards.
And G30's shooting sub 1" groups at 25 yards.
See for yourself, with a quick internet search !
I was at my local range with my stock Glock 23 when Shaq showed up. I shot next to him and put 4 rounds through the same hole at 25 yards and dropped the fifth round about 1" low at the 6 o'clock location. I talked shooting with Shaq for a while and he signed my target.
New here..got a 17. Real nice gun, nice stock trigger. Doesn't need anything. Hits every time. What is your definition of accuracy? The Missouri can lob shells 25 miles and kill everybody but cant hit a paper plate. 6 inches is accurate to a beginner 2 inches is pore to Doug Koenig. A Glock is just fine outa the box... The important thing is Does it fit your hand and can you handle the recoil. Also do you like it? If you dont like it you wont try you wont be happy. You can learn to shoot any gun well.
Glocks are good enough for what they are good for.... ccw and police work and basic home defense work. They are cheap and durable and work well with little cleaning or maintainance. Super accurate not even close.
My sig 220 / my 1911 les Baer , my ed brown ... those are very very accurate pistols. They cost many times what glocks cost and require better maintainance to run well.
4" to 6" at 25 yrd is very acceptable in a service gun. Glocks just tend to shoot high with stock sights left on them past 50'. Its easily dealt with but you have to make an effort to at least measure and order a new front.
My 34 with adjustable Dawsons and a custom trigger is extremely accurate. Far more accurate then I am. Your just not going to get a real accurate gun without a longer sighting plane which is why most people compete with 5" barrel guns. Anyway I consider my Glocks as pure self defense guns, the exception is maybe the 34 which I dont carry anyway, and for self defense they are plenty accurate.
I had a couple of private e-mails asking about my shooting other model Glocks for accuracy. The above YouTube video shows me shooting a stock model 19 Glock at a 1" diameter dot at a distance of 75 feet. I am shooting with my right hand and filming the shot with my camera in my left hand. It ain't the arrow it's the Indian.
Plus one. I have a 17L and cannot shoot it any more accurately than 'regular' G17. Even with a Bar-Sto barrel. It's about as accurate anything else off the shelf.
You do get substantial increase in velocity however, to 375 Mag levels with the plusPplus ammo.
I can shoot a 3 inch pattern at 25 yards with my G37; I can also do this with my buddy's G17L and G21. I can also get 10 out of 12 shots on a 12"x12" target with my G26 at 15 yards. I suck with the G26. I will give it another 500 rounds before I sell it off and try out a G39.
For those who are even approaching being reasonably experienced with sidearms, all Glock sidearms are quite sufficiently accurate AND precise for most any conceivable self defense situation.
It's just a matter of time before this guy purchases a Glock. Probably a G23 to boot! I know many people who eventually came around and eventually made their Glock purchase. I'm one of them.
Except for my Gen 4 G21 which has shot a 4 1/2" 5 shot group from 100 yds. off sandbags with chunky night sights and my handloads (please don't tell anyone).
Oh, yeah, also except for my M36 which will hit a 6x12" plate offhand from 50 yds. IF I hold and squeeze correctly......
And....well that's enough for now
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