I'm from the Netherlands and I am not a Glock-Believer nor a SigSauer-Believer for what my gun-religion is...
I would say, if judge the Frame and trigger group, I would say that the Sig looks much more robust to me.
I’ve seen a few Glocks that has a broken metal rail (where the slide runs on) at the rear. Under certain conditions then strange accidents can happen. The metal of the rail has only 1 mm thicknes, at the SigSauer its double. The front and the rear rail is one metal part by SigSauer.
At that point looks the Glock more at a toy-gun.
I think the SigSauer is a good pick.
Another disadvantage of the Glock is that it eats not all type of Ammo.
A hard primer can be a problem.
The Glock is the standard sidearm of the Dutch Military.
The Dutch police force did use 500 Glock’s.
The Dutch Police uses a standard 9 mm Police-Safety ammo, first Action 3, then the Action Effect, and now the Action NP all from RUAG.
The Koninklijke Marechaussee (Royal Constabulary) is a police organization from the military, armed with Glock 17. Because it do also some special civilian tasks it must use the Standard Dutch police ammo. A lot of malfunctions did happen because the primer was to hard for the Glock firing pin. In the end, special lots of that police ammo was ordered to prevent this…
Our navy and Army divers and marines use have the special firing pin spring set other wise also malfunctions…
So its not all ‘halleluiah’ for the Glock, but I sure do like to shoot this pistol very well !!!
It is interesting that it was the Germans primarily who pushed for the prohibition of self-expanding projectiles in warfare on the basis that they were too cruel.
They had no problems with poison gas or flamethrowers, however.
We Glock fans have it good, in that our preferred gun has been the industry leader for the last quarter-century. Glock killed off the S&W metal-framed semi-auto, Sigma Series, and SW99. The Ruger P-series and Beretta 8000/9000 guns were also casualties. Even solid weapons like the HK USP and sigPro weren't able to gain much of a market share. Sig really went "out of the box" with the P320. It is a great gun as a stand-alone, and the modularity will appeal to some users. It wil have to be proven in the crucible of the real-world, just like the Glock. It DID take Glock four design "generations" to maintain it's role as industry leader, and they aren't done yet. PERFECTION is a moving target. I like the Sig P320; it is really the second-generation of the P250. There is room for healthy competition in the handgun market. One manufacturer can't possibly meet the needs and wants of the entire worldwide market. Of course, I would have been pleased if Glock won the Army contract.
Another question...even if you never used it...would you have preferred to still have it just in case, or not have it because of the extra weight etc. to carry?
Not a good question for a military grunt. I often carried 1200 rounds of ammo,some in 20 metal magazines,2 hand grenades,a claymore mine,2 trip flares,a LAW,2 canteens of water,a titty bag of water,and strapped on my hip was a 1911.The only time I complained about weight was when I was running low on ammo.And no,I never had to use my Colt 1911 in a firefight.I was 5'7" and 155 pounds.
This is great news for Sig, and for my home state of New Hampshire! I was just looking at the new Sig system at Shooter's Outpost in Hooksett a couple of weeks ago, looks pretty cool.
I've never seen polymer that scuffs and scratches as easily as the P320. Drag your fingernail across it, it will leave a permanent mark. It's basically the polymer equivalent of the new Glock slide finish.
Still fail to see how that is a big advantage, especially for civilians. Two complete guns or two FCUs... they are the same thing in the eyes of the law.
I was not talking about civilian law. I was talking about a unit armorer being able to quickly repair a serviceman or servicewoman's pistol in the field.
I haven't taken apart the FCU of either of my P320s. A number have done so and reported it isn't all that bad.
But the FCU is really relatively small and compact. If there is a problem with the FCU, a malfunctioning pistol can be made good in about 30 seconds by swapping out the FCU.
With a cost of $207 every member of the Army should get issued a Sig 320 for everyday open carry once they leave Basic. They should also get to keep it when they are honorably discharged.
I shot a friends sig p250 and it was 100 percent reliable but neither myself or my friend could hit a good group with it. I have no trouble with a sig 220 or 229 or sig 239 or 1911 or HK . So he sold it and I never warmed up to it. If you practice enough I assume you can get good with it.
Not a good question for a military grunt. I often carried 1200 rounds of ammo,some in 20 metal magazines,2 hand grenades,a claymore mine,2 trip flares,a LAW,2 canteens of water,a titty bag of water,and strapped on my hip was a 1911.The only time I complained about weight was when I was running low on ammo.And no,I never had to use my Colt 1911 in a firefight.I was 5'7" and 155 pounds.
Sir,
Hague Convention in 1899 is obsolete. It was passed by Geneve Convention in 1926 and in 1949 and finally by three additional protocols.
ONU declared, at the date of 31.12.1998, that 165 Nations subscribed this agreement (USA included).
No civilized army in the world uses (not even developing countries) this kind of admunition.
NATO armies included.
In Europe also Police Officers can't use "bullets which expand) and so civilians authorized to carry a gun for self defence.
Escuse for my bad English!
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