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G 20 for trail and ccw

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#1 ·
Hello all new to Glock talk I have had a few Glocks a 22 and a 30s they are no longer with me as they don't fit very well I never tried messing with the grips maybe that would have helped but I am going to try again I need something smaller than my super blackhawk to carry while Archery hunting I don't have the funds just to buy the G20 and keep the 44 so it has to go is the G20 a good choice for a woods gun and cow I need something to protect from big black bears and Moose I seem to attract the big long legged Bowinkles thanks for your advise
 
#2 ·
Im a 10mm fanboy so Ill say yes. The G20 would be great for the woods, would be ok for ccw but it is a larger frame gun so concealing may not be easy. Maybe check out a 29 still 10mm not a whole lot of loss between it and and the G20. G29 would be a lot easier to conceal.
 
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If the 30s does not fit your hand, then I would definetly advise you a hand to weapon trial on a 29 and or 20.

Suggest you also shoot some hot loads in 10mm before you buy to compare to your Super Black Hawk.

If hand to weapon fit is ok and comparing a woods load after shooting appeals to you, proceed. What you have today in the Super Black Hawk with the right ammo fits the bill and nothing extra is needed.

Ps Welcome to Glock Talk. I carry a Ruger Alaskan in 44 mag. and cast boolits 315 grain at 1300 FPS. It weighs about a pound more than the 20 because its the snubby.
 
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If the 30s does not fit your hand, then I would definetly advise you a hand to weapon trial on a 29 and or 20.

Suggest you also shoot some hot loads in 10mm before you buy to compare to your Super Black Hawk.

If hand to weapon fit is ok and comparing a woods load after shooting appeals to you, proceed. What you have today in the Super Black Hawk with the right ammo fits the bill and nothing extra is needed.

Ps Welcome to Glock Talk. I carry a Ruger Alaskan in 44 mag. and cast boolits 315 grain at 1300 FPS. It weighs about a pound more than the 20 because its the snubby.
I have the same gun in .480
 
#5 ·
I use a Glock 20 for woods carry. I load 200gr WFNGC bullets at 1200fps. The G20 is too big for CCW for me, but everyone is different when it comes to concealed carry, so that would be something you would have to check out.

The G29 is smaller to conceal and you can match G20 velocity for trail predator protection by adding an aftermarket barrel with the additional length, without compromising concealability much. In town, the G29 is more than plenty for SD in stock form, even with non 10mm loadings.
 
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Okay so what is the differences between the 20 and the 29 please understand new to Glocks basicly and what work can I do my self to the grip for better fit that is the only issue I have with glocks how much can I undercut the trigger guard and so on thanks
 
#16 ·
The G20 is fairly lightweight for it's size but if it looks small compared to your other pistols, your other pistols must be Desert Eagles and the Desert Eagle is practically a crew-served weapon. Seriously though, The G20's light weight and high ammo capacity makes it ideal for woods carry.
 
#18 ·
You're concerned with moose? An animal that weighs almost 1,000 lbs, and you want a handgun to stop one? A 10mm? You must be joking, nothing wrong with a 10mm but it isn't a moose gun regardless of the nonsense some spout off about it. Sure moose have been killed with it, same for 22 LR. If it were me, I'd stick with that 44 or swap for something even bigger and practice, alot. Think heavy 45 colt on up.
 
#21 ·
I have to agree. 10MM can put a moose down, but I aint betting my ass on it.
 
#19 · (Edited)
One option that the G20 offers, and the G29 lacks, is a Glock OEM 6.0-inch "hunting" barrel. It's a drop-in replacement for the standard 4.6-inch barrel.

Personally, I'd get a G40 for field use if I were in the market for something in 10mm, and come up with something considerably smaller for CCW.

If I could have one and only one handgun that would serve in the full spectrum of usage, the *only* handgun capable of that is a revolver in .357MAG. I love my Ruger GP100 with 6-inch full underlug barrel and adjustable night sights, but for a smaller alternative it's hard to beat an SP101 with 3-inch barrel and fixed sights.

I normally use a Gen4 Glock G31 in .357SIG as an outdoors and camp weapon, but I usually have the SP101 in .357MAG in the pack.

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Thanks for the welcome. This is a great forum. I had a 6 inch LW barrel in my Gen 3 G20 SF but I didn't like the way the gun felt or balanced or looked so I cut it down to an even five inches. I like the Idea of an OEM barrel And may get one of those one of these days and compare velocities to my five incher.

Another reason I got the LW barrel was because it has conventional rifleing and I reload and with the Lone wolf barrel I can shoot cast bullets. To the guy that said that the 10mm was not enough for moose and bear, All a cartridge needs to do to kill a moose is to penetrate the skull and deliver at least 500 foot pounds of energy to the brain. The 10mm will do that with heavy hardcast bullets and so will the 357 mag with heavy hardcast 180 grain bullets.
 
#20 ·
Problems with tyrannosaurus rex's, do you have?....
Hell, 200 gr DT is in my spare carry mag. All we have are tweakersaurus rex around here.
 
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#24 ·
As noted, the G20 feels very different than a G20sf or G40. I have a G20sf, and love it. Nothing east of the Mississippi is out of its league, although I hadn't contemplated a sustained moose attack, and those fellas are on the big side for any handgun!

I'd hold/shoot a few, and see what you think. For the US East, for combined weight/capacity/stopping power average, I haven't found anything I would rather carry. As in all guns, it is a world of compromises, though!
 
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Im a 10mm fanboy so Ill say yes. The G20 would be great for the woods, would be ok for ccw but it is a larger frame gun so concealing may not be easy. Maybe check out a 29 still 10mm not a whole lot of loss between it and and the G20. G29 would be a lot easier to conceal.
I have a G20 for years great gun. I use 200 grain bullets in, handloads. But a word of caution. A lot of velocity claims for the 10 are from 6 inch barrels. You get a noticeable increase in velocity from the six inch barrels versus the standard 5 inch. I prefer the 200 grain bullets.
 
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I love my G20 and carry it in mid-south with Winchester Silvertips, 175 grain at about 1175 fps. The standard 180 grain Hornady XTP and similar loads will work fine for "small" big game like mountain lions and similar black bear. I carry the hard cast 200 grain at 1200 fps Double Tap loads in big critter country. Having said this, why not cut your Super Blackhawk to from 4 5/8" up to 5 1/2" and be done with it? I have a 4 5/8" 44 Spl New Model Blackhawk, a 50th anniversary flat top 357 mag converted by John Gallagher to 44 Spl, which doesn't carry all that much better than my 5.5" NMBH 44 Magnum. My standard load is a 250 grain hard cast at 1100 fps. In a shoulder holster, mine doesn't interfere with a rifle or bow on the strong side. I know personally of one cow moose killed with plain old .45 ACP hard ball, 230 grain, with neck shots. Precision is the first requirement, along with a "4" in front of the caliber if possible and sufficient sectional density, 175 grain 357, 220 grain 10mm, 250 grain 44 Magnum, on up to 280 grain 45 Colt. Not too hard cast, so as not to shatter and you're good. You'll notice the compromise with the 200 grain 10mm auto, much lower sectional density than the revolver loads I've mentioned. A 220 grain would be the right weight to match the revolvers. When you get this heavy with a 10mm auto and standard twist, your accuracy may suffer due to instability. You'll have to experiment if you go that way.
 
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IMHO, the G20 or G40 would make a great sidearm for your purpose. It does not have the power of a 44rem mag...more comparable to a 357mag. What it lacks in power to the 44mag revolver you have now I feel it would make up in capacity, speed of rounds on target and last but not least carry weight.
I do not have either a G20 or G40. But I carried a friends G20 a few years ago on a Rifle Black Bear hunt and was confident in it's ability in a "Close Quarters SHTF-Pissed of Mama Bear scenario". Although a PO'ed Moose in Alaska in probably much more hard to handle.
I do intend to have a G40 in the future to use as a Back Up or Primary for Hog Hunting.
 
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IMHO, the G20 or G40 would make a great sidearm for your purpose. It does not have the power of a 44rem mag...more comparable to a 357mag. What it lacks in power to the 44mag revolver you have now I feel it would make up in capacity, speed of rounds on target and last but not least carry weight.
I do not have either a G20 or G40. But I carried a friends G20 a few years ago on a Rifle Black Bear hunt and was confident in it's ability in a "Close Quarters SHTF-Pissed of Mama Bear scenario". Although a PO'ed Moose in Alaska in probably much more hard to handle.
I do intend to have a G40 in the future to use as a Back Up or Primary for Hog Hunting.
Funny how some(Yankee Marshall YT) like to say that 6 rounds of .44 mag. is better than 16 rounds of hot 10mm. I gotta laugh. Of course, you can't fix stoopid.
 
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Yap I thought about cutting the barrel to 5.5" and magnapoting it and then having it coated Desert Tan with flat black cyclender and sights but I have been thinking about the G20 so that's the way I'm going I think it would cost less to sell the 44 and buy the G20 than to keep the 44 and trick it out not enough funds to do both
 
#33 ·
Welcome to GT.

Just a suggestion on posting etiquette for the future: use periods. They're reader-friendly. Endless run-on sentences hamper comprehension.

Back to your question ...

Yes, a 10mm Gen4 G20 is a great trail/woods/boonies gun, and is still reasonably concealable. Before I got my G40 MOS, the G20 was my dedicated "backwoods" gun for any hiking more extensive than a stroll around the neighborhood Metro-park.

And unless you absolutely have to keep it concealed while out on the trail, the hands-down best carry method that keeps your G20 within immediate reach (whether for use against 4- or 2-legged predators) is the center-chest holster. These holsters leave your hands free to do or carry something else (or to do tasks or chores around the camp site, if camping), but the gun is securely held and conveniently reachable.

Check out the chest rigs made by Kanai, and the Alaskan Guide Holster made by Diamond D.
 
#34 ·
I have had a few Glocks a 22 and a 30s they are no longer with me as they don't fit very well I never tried messing with the grips
Now that you've gotten the G20 being a good woods gun out of the way, what are you going to do about the fact that the grip is bigger than a G22, even the Gen 4 or the short frame? If the G22 didn't fit you, well, how is the 20 going to fit? Even if you removed the finger grooves, it still has the same circumference. You'd also have to remove all the texture to get the circumference less, but at that, it will still be bigger than a G22. It's doubtful you'll like the G29 if you didn't like the 30s. You definitely should compare all of them before you buy one. Whatever you buy, shoot it, some. You can train into how a gun fits you....and don't shoot other guns while you're doing it. Stick to the one you're going to carry. After a while, the Ruger would feel alien to you.

If the 20 ends up being too big for you, you can always go back to the 22. It makes a great trail gun and there are some ammo makers out there that know good 40 S&W bear recipes.
 
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When started looking into 10mm, I first went to a large gun store to actually handle a G20. The first realization for me was the grip size. It is a large grip that does fill my hand as compared to my G22, but was not in any way too large. In fact, the next thing I noticed was that my trigger finger fell into perfect position without having to think about it.

I have seen a lot of posts about 357 or 44 mag revolvers being a better choice.
I have a a couple of 357 revolvers, and while I do like them a lot, and do carry them from time to time, I shoot my Glocks a lot more constantly. Add to that the 15 + 1 capacity, and I feel a lot better carrying my 20 or 22 than any of my revolvers.
 
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I wouldn't feel confident stopping a charging moose with heavy 4570 loads. I think the 10mm is the best compromise between easy carry, fire power and confidence. So it's between the G20 or G40,and I have been handling booth and talking to people about grip and grip strength and I feel comfortable with the grip. Hope my grammar was better
 
#38 ·
There was improvement shown. But grammar wasn't your problem; rather, it was punctuation. :cool:
 
#40 ·
I had a cow moose with a calf charge me from 200 yards away and stopped just short of me about 50 yards away.I had a Black bear fake charge at me on a backpacking trip and stopped short of me but ran off when I yelled and waved my arms at her.I was not armed neither of those times but it wouldn't have mattered anyhow no matter what cannon I had in my hand.I was shaking so bad that I wouldn't have been able to even hit that so called," barn door".Good luck with the dreams.Yep,it was :eek:fftopic:,sorry.
 
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