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Take down issue

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#1 ·
I just bought a glock frame (g17) from omaha outdoors, and I also bought a zev slide. The two mate together just fine, and locks up like normal when cycled. But when i pull down the takedown tabs and let the slide forward, it's about 1/8 of an inch forward (it's perfectly flat when just cycling slide). It only happens when you are trying to take the gun down, and will not be able to actuate the trigger. I have to slightly push the slide back flush (without going too far and resetting the takedown tabs) and pull the trigger. Tried it with factory trigger, and zev trigger, factory barrel and zev barrel. Has the issue with all of the above.
 
#3 ·
You sir are a Genius lol. Can't believe I've owned this many glocks and I've always pulled the trigger after I pushed the take down lever. But at the same time, it's just this 1 that had the issue where I couldn't take it down will pulling the trigger right after depressing the tabs.
 
#5 ·
The simplicity of his answer threw me so much that I had to break my 29 down just now.
I guess it just became one of those things I do on autopilot and I couldn't step-by-step it in my mind.
Sure enough. Had to pull the trigger before the takedown.
Damn. I always liked that Jackie Chan move.
 
#6 ·
The simplicity of his answer threw me so much that I had to break my 29 down just now.
I guess it just became one of those things I do on autopilot and I couldn't step-by-step it in my mind.
Sure enough. Had to pull the trigger before the takedown.
Damn. I always liked that Jackie Chan move.
I've always pulled the trigger after take down and the slide would just pop right off. Of all my glocks, this is the only one that doesn't do that, but it's also sporting an aftermarket slide, which may be the issue. But I don't have a factory 17 slide Bc my other 17 is a factory Zev pistol. Guess I can test to see if it's a slide issue by swapping my 34 slide on that frame
 
#11 ·
Tried to get into competition but realized I don't have as much spare time as I used to. The other pistols with optics is just Bc I'm cross dominate and have a severe astigmatism. The optics help me place shots quickly without forcing my eyes to get a good sight picture. See target and dot and pull
 
#10 ·
Ever since I bought my first Glock, and I have bought sold and traded a bunch of them, I read the manual and did it like manual said.
I never gave it any thought of trying to do it any other way.
Just like with the first one if no round in the chamber the trigger is back, that way no chance for accidental discharge. If I pick it up and trigger is forward, it's ready to Rock and Roll. Lol
That is just my way of knowing what is going on.
 
#12 ·
If you purchase a "NEW" Glock it came with an instruction manual. When I use to work at the local shooting range for (volunteer). I encourage every "new" Glock owner to read the manual Cover To Cover. Then read the part in RED TWICE.

It amazed me how many people thought noting of trying to work with a Glock before having a basic knowledge of how to load, unload, chamber a round, fire the firearm, release the slide, release the magazine, disassemble, clean and last assemble a Glock.

Did you get a manual? Did you read it?
 
#13 ·
I did not read any of my manuals. And all my guns were able to be taken down the way I've always done it except this particular one. I was wondering what the issue may have been since all others take down just fine. This frame was purchased as new from Omaha outdoors. Just the frame, the slide was purchased new from
Zev technologies. Figured there was a out of spec part, but did not know if it was the frame, slide or trigger parts
 
#14 · (Edited)
What the OP calls the "takedown lever" or "tabs" is properly called the Slide Lock by Glock.

The OP's method of pulling the trigger AFTER using the Slide Lock to let the slide travel slightly forward results in the slide going forward until the rear of the trigger bar jams the rear of the firing pin against the slide cover plate. As the trigger is subsequently pulled, the trigger bar moves the entire jammed-together slide assembly rearward against the force of the recoil spring plus any other resistance to motion between the slide and the frame.

Using Glock's specified method, the trigger gets pulled with every part in its normal relationship under normal tensions.

Using the OP's method, when the trigger gets pulled the trigger bar moves the whole slide assembly against RSA force, instead of only the firing pin against firing pin spring force. The rear of the trigger bar then cams downward by the connector against these abnormal forces that are pressing the front of the firing pin lug against the rear of the trigger bar cruciform.

Usually, the trigger can still be pulled using greater than normal force. The OP found a specific situation where it appeared that the trigger could not be moved under the abnormal stresses that his method creates. No doubt, with sufficient force the trigger COULD have been moved, but there is absolutely no advantage using the OP's method, and potential for many subtle problems.

It's never a bad idea to read the owner's manual at least once. Ignorance is not always bliss. :)
I did not read any of my manuals.
Obviously.
 
#15 · (Edited)
Because I did read the manual, I've never tried to disassemble a Glock without first making sure it was clear, then pulling the trigger and pulling the slide slightly back prior to releasing the slide lock. Glad the OP's issue turned out to have an easy answer and wasn't really a problem after all. A Glock armorer showed me a trick for pulling the slide back with one hand to disengage the slide lock. Curl your fingers around the top of the slide, and with the thumb seated in the curve against the backstrap's beavertail, squeeze the thumb forward to move the slide rearward while disengaging the slide lock with the other hand. The technique works easily on most full and compact sized Glocks.
 
#17 ·
I am very anal about reading instructional manuals. The reason being is many times I find a feature, or something that I would have never even know had I not read the instructional manual.

Year ago I moved from one line of Canon Brand Camera to their new dangled EOS Auto Focus Cameras. Had I not read the manuals cover to cover I would have never ever found some feature that were so helpful in my work.

Glocks manuals are pretty straight forward, fast reads, but still offer many helpful tips & trick that are helpful to the new Glock owner. They are written I am sure in some way to protect Glock from liability. But like I said even though I had a pretty good idea how Glocks worked, the time spend reading the manual still gave me a few pieces of information I would not have know unless I read the manual.
 
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