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New Glock? Glock19M??

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I am hearing rumors of a new Glock releasing soon? Is this true? If so please send me a link with pictures! I'm looking into buying a G19 Gen4 but I'll wait for the M series if it's worth it!

Please help thanks.
 
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I disagree. basically, it is a Gen4 with a Gen2 grip layout. Ambi slide stops and a little bit more of a flair on the grip mag well. What's not to like? The only reason Glock put finger louvers on his pistols was for importation points. Now that Glocks are made here in the U.S.(some are, anyway), the stupid finger louvers can be left off of the pistol. I carry a Gen2 19 everyday and love it due to the comfort it affords my big mitts. I am looking forward to the LEO release of the 19M and plan to buy one ASAP.
 
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I disagree. basically, it is a Gen4 with a Gen2 grip layout. Ambi slide stops and a little bit more of a flair on the grip mag well. What's not to like? The only reason Glock put finger louvers on his pistols was for importation points. Now that Glocks are made here in the U.S.(some are, anyway), the stupid finger louvers can be left off of the pistol. I carry a Gen2 19 everyday and love it due to the comfort it affords my big mitts. I am looking forward to the LEO release of the 19M and plan to buy one ASAP.
My brother's gripe with Glocks has always been the finger grooves when holding mine.
 
#9 ·
Yep! I rest my case. Don't get me wrong, I will use Glocks with the finger louvers, but Boy, do I prefer them w/out!
 
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And yeah, I know they were withdrawn for a reason I do not remember. But not to worry, Glock will make it right, trust me.
I want one when the become available to LEO's. 19M!
 
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Shotshow is Jan 17-20, wait and see. If all they release is more MOS models, which is where I would put my money, a Gen4 19 will serve you well
 
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I disagree. basically, it is a Gen4 with a Gen2 grip layout. Ambi slide stops and a little bit more of a flair on the grip mag well.
Absolutely incorrect! Have you read ANYTHING substantive about these M pistols?
What's not to like?
Maybe a few charming harmless unimportant little G17M characteristics, perhaps:

1. A barrel that is completely incompatible with ALL other full-size or greater barrels and pistols, caused by changes needed to unnecessarily lengthen the RSA.
2. A lengthened RSA that is incompatible with ALL other G17 RSAs.
3. A locking block that is completely incompatible with ALL other G17 locking blocks, required.by the new RSA and those worthless ambidextrous slide stop levers.
4. Weaker frame/locking block assembly due to the elimination of the locking block pin in order to accomodate the ambidextrous slide stop levers.
5. Slide lock and slide lock spring that is completely incompatible with versions used in ALL other Glock models. Apparently, failures (slides flying off frame) here that were experienced early in the attempted issue of the G17M have caused an ongoing delay of several months for any further attempted issue.
6. A square firing pin safety that is incompatible with all other firing pin safeties.
7. A slide that accomodates the above changes and is incompatible with any other slide.
8. A bizarre flaired magazine well that adds nothing positive to function as a weapon (but might be OK on a range toy).

Gosh...who wouldn't want one of these! Indeed...what's not to like about this radically new and untested MAJOR design change?

The above is doubtless NOT the complete listing of largely superfluous alterations newly made and poorly tested to what was once a very competent and supremely reliable design...one that was very well-tested by decades of actual field experience instead of a mish-mash of nonsense whose ONLY purpose and criteria for acceptance is meeting every "desired" requirement from a list made up by some committee.of government bureaucrats. Gobble it up, you gullible Glocksters! :)
The only reason Glock put finger louvers on his pistols was for importation points.
Louvers??? Nothing on any Glock I've ever seen meets the definition of a louver. :)

But...never mind. For other reasons your statement is incorrect. Long before the first Gen3 pistols with the finger grooves appeared, grooveless Glocks in compact and larger models were imported in great quantity. It was only the introduction of the subcompact "Gen2.5" G26 and G27 after late 1995 that required finger grooves and thumb dimples for import points. But...apparently most users found these to be of some real value because shortly thereafter the Gen3 design incorporated them on the larger frame models as well.
 
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The changes made were to comply with the new FBI specs for their new pistol. Finger grips were not added for import points, as Glocks had been imported for 11 years prior to the Gen3 pistols. Deleting the locking block pin is no big deal. All 9's had only two pins until 2002, when the third pin was added to simplify production. If you were Mr. Glock, you would make changes to secure the 25,000 pistol FBI order. Remember, you do not have to buy a G17M or G19M. The Gen3 and Gen4 versions will be around for years to come.

The new firing pin safety is the same as used in the G42 and G43. I am not sure about the trigger spring, but expect an answer today from Glock.
 
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Easy there, Mike-M, it will be OK. My statement was a generalization only. Glock essentially blew SIG out of the water by matching the FBI requirements for their new pistol. The FBI requirements appeared to have been written to support the adoption of the SIG 320(No kidding,(Eye roll!), and Glock bent over backwards to match them. We all know that.
As far as non-compatibility w/ older Glock models, that maybe very true. Glock has said that several design changes that were made with the 42 and 43 models will eventually be incorporated into other caliber pistols in the future, such as the "Square" firing pin lock. Which, by the way, is an engineering change to alleviate a minor problem Glock has identified w/ the older small "button" firing pin lock.
The advent of the Gen4 pistol started some of the design changes with a beefed up frame to handle .40 cal better, and a new Ambidextrous magazine button, not to mention an improved RSA to handle .40 recoil better. Glock has suffered minor problems over the years with these issues, and is changing to alleviate them. Lack of the 3rd pin in the locking block is also not an issue w/ 9's. Never was and never will be, and Glock has said so. The third pin inclusion for the locking block was in response to the locking block rocking in the frame too much with .40 caliber, and the pin helped stop some of that. It still happens, btw. Just not so much now. I feel sure you were aware of that, I am just restating it for GP.
It boils down to this. The 17/19M's may be completely different from current Glocks and probably cross compatible in many ways. I myself like Glocks as they are and will be pleased to see a 17/19M when they become available to the general public. Will I buy one? Perhaps, and perhaps not. To me the point is moot, I am happy to know that Glock won the FBI contract. Now we sit back and watch what happens.
Thanks, Mike. Stay safe.
 
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